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Ike Zimbel

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New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« on: March 17, 2018, 08:06:53 pm »

Hi Gang,
    This came out in early February, but in case you missed it:https://www.prosoundweb.com/channels/av/it-came-out-of-nowhere-rf-wireless-strategies-when-working-with-eng-efp-crews/
It covers dealing with news and video crews bringing RF gear into your event and how to deal with them...even applies to wedding bands!
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2018, 09:29:36 pm »

TTi scanner is now part of almost EVERY job we do.. Even when working with production on the RF planning there are always offenders.. I have started taking pictures of credentials and even confiscating batteries..
My favorite is when you see a bunch of TV vans showing up and the IFB TX frequencies go crazy! Zero span the freq and you hear your favorite TV show.. ( Doctor Phil, Judge Judy, Local News) Google the tv show and time of day.. Locate broadcaster and match call sign to van.. Walk up to van and ask to turn off RF.. They claim that they are not transmitting.. You show them the Freq and tell them to Turn OFF... Watch them look around as if they have no idea.. Then they go over to the control panel and switch off the IFB like nothing happened! Got YA!
If any one asks you who YOU are.. Show them this..
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2018, 02:13:38 pm »

TTi scanner is now part of almost EVERY job we do.. Even when working with production on the RF planning there are always offenders.. I have started taking pictures of credentials and even confiscating batteries..
My favorite is when you see a bunch of TV vans showing up and the IFB TX frequencies go crazy! Zero span the freq and you hear your favorite TV show.. ( Doctor Phil, Judge Judy, Local News) Google the tv show and time of day.. Locate broadcaster and match call sign to van.. Walk up to van and ask to turn off RF.. They claim that they are not transmitting.. You show them the Freq and tell them to Turn OFF... Watch them look around as if they have no idea.. Then they go over to the control panel and switch off the IFB like nothing happened! Got YA!
If any one asks you who YOU are.. Show them this..
Yep, had those discussions. I'm keeping a book on the local truck IFB's and usually just add them into my coordination right from the start. To be fair, I've talked to many of the truck techs and they all say the same thing: "We're here to cover your event, right now, but if something happens down the street (like the kind of bad stuff that makes the news...) we're going straight there and there's no way I'm going to have time to mess around changing IFB frequencies back to what the station gave us". So sometimes you just have to be aware and work around them.
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2018, 08:09:19 pm »

Ah yes, the lone rangers and their "lucky frequency".

And keeping track and getting to know the people is the best thing you can do.
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2018, 12:00:32 pm »

Yep, had those discussions. I'm keeping a book on the local truck IFB's and usually just add them into my coordination right from the start. To be fair, I've talked to many of the truck techs and they all say the same thing: "We're here to cover your event, right now, but if something happens down the street (like the kind of bad stuff that makes the news...) we're going straight there and there's no way I'm going to have time to mess around changing IFB frequencies back to what the station gave us". So sometimes you just have to be aware and work around them.

I just worked a major broadcast sporting event - non-compliant locals were told they would be banned from the property if they violated RF coordination after being told to retune or shut off offending transmitters.  The league backed up the on-site coordinator and threatened to revoke credentials.
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 01:57:19 pm »

This is my favorite nearfield sniffer.  Does analogue, digital, PL tones instantaneously and less than $80.00!

https://www.amazon.com/Surecom-SF401-PLUS-27Mhz-3000Mhz-Portable-Frequency/dp/B01AOTJH6Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521654840&sr=8-3&keywords=sf401+plus
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2018, 03:19:05 pm »

This is my favorite nearfield sniffer.  Does analogue, digital, PL tones instantaneously and less than $80.00!

This tool should be in a sticky somewhere. Thanks Pete!

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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2018, 01:29:34 pm »

 I just bought one. For me, it seems to work wonderfully on strictly analog units such as UHF-R, but works rather poorly on wireless such as ULXD.

 Anyone else have a similar experience?
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Re: New RF article: It came out of Nowhere!
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2018, 10:48:49 pm »

I just bought one. For me, it seems to work wonderfully on strictly analog units such as UHF-R, but works rather poorly on wireless such as ULXD.

 Anyone else have a similar experience?
Yes, and it's frustrating. We NFL GDC's have been searching for years for an easy, quick, handheld counter that can ID digital mic center freqs, and we're still stumped.  My solution is a Signal Hound SA velcroed to the back of a midsize Windows tablet running Spike. Spike can do peak searching markers and can shift the analysis CF to said marker.  Then just reduce span until meaningful info appears.  The two major issues with this are price and lack of simplicity.

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