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Ivan Feder

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YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« on: February 06, 2018, 05:23:40 am »


While you are all sleeping in the US this just popped up!

http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/europe/en_gb/products/mixers/rivage_pm7/features.jsp
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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 10:55:07 am »

While you are all sleeping in the US this just popped up!

http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/europe/en_gb/products/mixers/rivage_pm7/features.jsp

This looks very cool. It will be interesting to see where it comes in price wise. We've all been expecting/hoping for this to arrive, now it's nearly here.

The new Rio racks are also very cool. You can control the parameters from controls on the Rio, or lock them out, and they have meters.

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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 11:07:03 am »


The new Rio racks are also very cool. You can control the parameters from controls on the Rio, or lock them out, and they have meters.

Mac
And redundant power supplies.  Always thought it was odd the current crop didn't have that...



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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 12:27:47 pm »

Very nice. Looks like the major differences are that they cut down the number of inputs, out mixes, matrices and expansion slots. 

I wonder if that alone will get the price under a hundred grand?
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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 04:37:25 pm »

Very nice. Looks like the major differences are that they cut down the number of inputs, out mixes, matrices and expansion slots. 

I wonder if that alone will get the price under a hundred grand?

The major difference is the DSP is inside the control surface. Because of that there is not enough DSP to run the TC Electronics reverbs, but there is enough for the Eventide H3000. With no separate DSP chassis there is less room for slots, although there are still 2 MY slots and 3 HY slots.

No word on price yet, but even a PM10 is less than a Digico. I expect under $100k is doable, but I wouldn’t expect much under.

The new Rio boxes are cool if you don’t need the Silk processing. They’ll be great add to the CL family.

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 04:38:59 pm »

The major difference is the DSP is inside the control surface. Because of that there is not enough DSP to run the TC Electronics reverbs, but there is enough for the Eventide H3000. With no separate DSP chassis there is less room for slots, although there are still 2 MY slots and 3 HY slots.

No word on price yet, but even a PM10 is less than a Digico. I expect under $100k is doable, but I wouldn’t expect much under.

The new Rio boxes are cool if you don’t need the Silk processing. They’ll be great add to the CL family.

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so...

PM10 = PM1d
PM7  =  PM5d

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 04:54:44 pm »

so...

PM10 = PM1d
PM7  =  PM5d

:)

But...  but...  7 is 2 more than 5!  :-)
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 04:59:36 pm »

But...  but...  7 is 2 more than 5!  :-)

And in this biz we only count to 2....
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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 05:15:26 pm »

But...  but...  7 is 2 more than 5!  :-)

How about this- 

A 5D was like half of a 1D, but a PM7 is about .7 of a PM10

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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 05:22:58 pm »

I also saw they added the Neve 5045 to the plugin list for the PM line. It would be pretty great if that could trickle down to the CL line.


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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 10:24:39 am »

How about this- 

A 5D was like half of a 1D, but a PM7 is about .7 of a PM10

 ;D

More than likely, they went with 7 to differentiate it as a step above a CL5, but not as high as a PM10.  5 < 7 < 10   I think Yamaha has a thing against using even numbers.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 10:32:17 am »

How about this- 

A 5D was like half of a 1D, but a PM7 is about .7 of a PM10

 ;D

This new math is hurting my brain...

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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 10:44:34 am »

Yamaha, the uneven mixer company ;)
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 11:23:35 am »

Long live the 02R96!


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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 11:31:05 am »

Redundant power supplies are a point of failure question.  On a large analog console a spare PSU and a couple of master strips and you're covered for most failure modes.  The corresponding back up for any digital console is a second console.  Spare PSUs in that case are placebos.

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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2018, 03:11:53 pm »

Probably going to be too much $$$ compared to features as the rest of the current Yamaha range.

I really like the CL/QL stuff, but I can get two mixers just as reliable doing twice the amount of channels each for the price of one QL/CL with RIO racks.

QL1 should do at least 48 mono/8 stereo channels. Preferably 64 for the price.
My little Si Performer 1 is just as reliable and do 80(!) channels to mix.
Only major difference between them is the lack of Dan Dugan for 80% of the jobs this level of consoles do.

And the meters on the SC sucks, but I can live with that.



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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2018, 03:18:47 pm »

If I could only be young again. Wouldn't it be nice to be just starting out with option like that board available.
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Re: YAMAHA PM7 is here!!
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2018, 04:10:10 pm »

At the intro of the M7CL I asked one of the Japanese Engineers why M7...and was told 7 is a very lucky or holy number
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2018, 04:47:54 pm »

From wikipedia:

The number seven is also considered an unlucky number due to the way it is written as Kanji 七 which is very similar to the way a samurai would commit seppuku were he to have been accused wrongfully. This type of Seppuku is called Memboku Seppuku.[8]
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