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Luke Andrew Reichart

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Stage Band Power??
« on: September 21, 2017, 10:25:37 am »

I have been searching for a thread that talks specifically about powering a stage for a band.

Looking for a solution that doesn't have to be this big of a stinger? (https://www.motionlabs.com/products/breakered-stringers/)


Any better ideas similar to these that are small/efficient?
https://www.powerdistributiononline.com/portable-distribution-boxes/20-30-amp/lex-20-amp-quad-box-with-powercon-input-to-edisons-feed-thru/
http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/529645-Blizzard-Lighting-Drop-PC
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2017, 10:42:12 am »

I have been searching for a thread that talks specifically about powering a stage for a band.

Looking for a solution that doesn't have to be this big of a stinger? (https://www.motionlabs.com/products/breakered-stringers/)


Any better ideas similar to these that are small/efficient?
https://www.powerdistributiononline.com/portable-distribution-boxes/20-30-amp/lex-20-amp-quad-box-with-powercon-input-to-edisons-feed-thru/
http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/529645-Blizzard-Lighting-Drop-PC

Hi Luke,

The options that you linked from Full Compass and PDO are eerily similar to stage boxes that Jim Spohn from OA Windsor makes/provides. We use the OA Windsor stage boxes and have excellent results with them.

I believe the "raw parts" cost for an OA Windsor box (unassembled) is around $40 per box. If you want Jim to build it for you, the cost is a bit more. Once you have the boxes, you'll need to make some stringer cables to connect them together.

We have a series of 8-foot, 12-foot, 16-foot, and 20-foot stringers with the PowerCon connectors on each side. This allows us to connect the stringers to one another. We also have a series of stringers that have an Edison plug on one side and a PowerCon on the other. These are "feeder" cables that supply power to the string of boxes.

We use SOOW cable for the stringers and feeders (12/3).

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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2017, 11:18:52 am »

I have been searching for a thread that talks specifically about powering a stage for a band.

Looking for a solution that doesn't have to be this big of a stinger? (https://www.motionlabs.com/products/breakered-stringers/)

Luke,

I'm a big believer in the LEX Powerflex E-String (aka "orchestra stringer") with the L14-20 ends:
http://www.lexproducts.com/products/entertainment/powerflex-cable-assemblies/multiple-receptacle-extensions/20-amp-e-string-l14-20-in-4-nema-5-15-receptacles

Black/White, extra hard service cable, linkable end to end, indicator LED, UL listed, and pretty darn affordable (especially by LEX standards). The NEMA L14-20 is durable, compact, affordable by locking connector standards, and discourages the plugging in of random stuff.

I've specified these for install spaces, including my own church, for temporary stage and/or LED lighting power. One integrator I've worked with was not familiar with them, and now uses them widely on their installs.

The 59233B stringer linked above is $130 retail.
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2017, 12:25:40 pm »

Hi Luke,

The options that you linked from Full Compass and PDO are eerily similar to stage boxes that Jim Spohn from OA Windsor makes/provides. We use the OA Windsor stage boxes and have excellent results with them.

I believe the "raw parts" cost for an OA Windsor box (unassembled) is around $40 per box. If you want Jim to build it for you, the cost is a bit more. Once you have the boxes, you'll need to make some stringer cables to connect them together.

We have a series of 8-foot, 12-foot, 16-foot, and 20-foot stringers with the PowerCon connectors on each side. This allows us to connect the stringers to one another. We also have a series of stringers that have an Edison plug on one side and a PowerCon on the other. These are "feeder" cables that supply power to the string of boxes.

We use SOOW cable for the stringers and feeders (12/3).

This is what I do, too, albeit with somewhat different lengths of cable. I also have a few powerCon "out" cables to a NEMA 5-15R  end.
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 03:25:45 pm »

I agree, the OA Windsor stuff is awesome. All my quads have OA Windsor boxes and they're great. I built all mine before Powercons were fashionable for this sort of thing, but I'm not sure I'd want it any different even now.

I have 2 stringers that each have 4 quads spaced 10' apart, one with a 25' tail and one with a 45' tail. I find that the 10' spacing of the quads works pretty well in most situations. If I run it across the upstage, I end up with a quad on each side of the drum riser and one quad 10' out on each side, which is enough for a lot of things. Sometimes I have to run a quad from there up to the front center of the riser, other times I can run the stringer in a different route and hit everything I need to. For festival stages I typically run one stringer downstage and one upstage and that covers the majority of the bands I see.

Give Jim at OA Windsor a call at 307-674-8228. I'm sure he can get you exactly what you're looking for.
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 03:29:59 pm »

You might look at Blizzard Lighting.  They make a nice box with Powercon in's and out's.  There are questions about (or if) Powercons are code legal.  Stage power gets a little tricky meeting code.
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 03:55:23 pm »

You might look at Blizzard Lighting.  They make a nice box with Powercon in's and out's.  There are questions about (or if) Powercons are code legal.  Stage power gets a little tricky meeting code.

What questions? Who?


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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2017, 04:08:06 pm »

You might look at Blizzard Lighting.  They make a nice box with Powercon in's and out's.  There are questions about (or if) Powercons are code legal.  Stage power gets a little tricky meeting code.
Just wondering if you have had any issues with the Powercon compatible connectors.  I have seen some reports that some of the cheaper fixtures from some vendors using the fake powercons have had issues. 
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 04:28:08 pm »

I use Whirlwind PowerLink Stringers (http://whirlwindusa.com/catalog/power-electrical-distribution/stringers/pl1-420-bk) - very happy.

You could build your own (less the little light) for under $50 using Hubbell outlets and Neutrik connectors.  A Steel Project Box can be found here: http://bit.ly/2wmRv78
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Re: Stage Band Power??
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 06:59:00 pm »

I use Whirlwind PowerLink Stringers (http://whirlwindusa.com/catalog/power-electrical-distribution/stringers/pl1-420-bk) - very happy.

I love the price, but for some reason I feel rubber boxes will be better for me. 

If guess it's that wet out, I will have the power off anyhow!
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