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Rich Grisier

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Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« on: September 20, 2017, 10:58:16 am »

I'm looking to replace the top crossbar on some of my tripod stands.  Where's a good place to get 48" long 1.5" OD aluminum tubing? I've searched around a bit, but am coming up pretty much empty... or when I do find something it costs about the same as getting the whole stand.  I'm looking for something like THIS, but with an OD of 1.5", not 1 3/8".
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 11:03:32 am »

I'm looking to replace the top crossbar on some of my tripod stands.  Where's a good place to get 48" long 1.5" OD aluminum tubing? I've searched around a bit, but am coming up pretty much empty... or when I do find something it costs about the same as getting the whole stand.  I'm looking for something like THIS, but with an OD of 1.5", not 1 3/8".

Metals Depot

https://www.metalsdepot.com/products/alum2.phtml?page=rndtube&LimAcc=%20&aident=
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 11:36:41 am »

Sometimes you can find "DJ "I" truss" in 5' or 6' lengths that uses plastic tees to connect the small metal webs to the top and bottom cord.  I have seen these in the $60.00 to $70.00 range street price.  Just take it apart and use the truss cords.  They are usually black painted, have pre drilled holes, and include some hardware.  Also, I think some chain link fence tubing is 1.5" O.D. and is cheap. 
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 11:54:43 am »

I just bought some Ultimate crossbars $45 new on ebay
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 01:28:13 pm »

For $8 you can get a 10' section of EMT at Home depot.  The cheap steel tube is MUCH stronger than the thin aluminum stuff sold for lighting.
It fits in most speaker tripods also, giving you a 10' plus height lighting stand.
I also use it for speaker poles after pressing in adapters to fit the subs and tops.
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 01:51:01 pm »

Which tripod stands do you have?

I like the Global Truss GT-LB132. It's made for the ST-132 crank stand, but since it uses a standard 1 3/8" insertion diameter, you can put it on any normal stand. I sometimes put them on regular speaker stands with extremely light loads (4x LED pars). Used on the ST-132, I've had 2x movers hanging down and 4x pars on top, and it was very stable. They're solid and it's nice to be able to keep the O-clamps on all of my lights which fit both the t-bars and the truss. Less than $50 ea.
http://www.globaltruss.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ItemNumber=471&MainId=4&Category=42

That is a 2" bar though, and you specifically asked for 1.5". What is the reason for the 1.5" OD spec? 12" truss is 2" and sch40 pipe is 1.9". What uses 1.5"?
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 07:48:00 pm »

Hi Rich,

Yes, you can go the route of a dedicated part such as the Ultimate Support products, however I find those VERY expensive for what they are (I mean $45 for a paper-thin bar with a few holes?).  While it'll work, I've had luck shopping the spare/replacement parts sites of the stands I use.  Odyssey sells their crossbars for about a third the price of Ultimate's option, though I don't recall the exact dimensions off the top of my head.  They're what I use for lighter duty trees.

If holes and aesthetics aren't a concern EMT is the way to go.  Much stronger and robust than the flimsy masts and crossbars that come with most Guitar Center truss/tripod kits - I've actually snapped one of these before...not from overloading but likely from cyclic fatigue.  The EMT will also not dent from C-clamps either (tightened within reason) and the price can't be beaten.  You can always go with the Schedule 40 black pipe too, but that's probably a lot heavier than what you need.  It's great for moving head trees though!  If you must have parts with strength data available I believe The Light Source can sell you pipe, but I'm not sure if they carry 1.5" OD.   

That is a 2" bar though, and you specifically asked for 1.5". What is the reason for the 1.5" OD spec? 12" truss is 2" and sch40 pipe is 1.9". What uses 1.5"?

My guess is for compatibility with his O-clamps and/or existing trussing that uses the 1.5" plastic junction pieces.  I'll let Rich speak for himself though!  Hope this helps!
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2017, 01:18:35 am »

Hi Rich,

Yes, you can go the route of a dedicated part such as the Ultimate Support products, however I find those VERY expensive for what they are (I mean $45 for a paper-thin bar with a few holes?).

The Ultimate Support crossbars are actually pretty hefty thick walled tubing. I usually have some extras left over from light stand packages that get parted out if someone needs just the stand.
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2017, 07:09:20 am »

The Ultimate Support crossbars are actually pretty hefty thick walled tubing. I usually have some extras left over from light stand packages that get parted out if someone needs just the stand.

That's good to know.  And I also know it includes a few other bits of hardware, but I still find it very hard to justify such a price when there are so many other solutions out there that cost a fraction of that.  I think Schedule 40 black pipe would even cost less!  But, at the end of the day it's about getting the right solution for the given application and if this product works for some people than it's all good!
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2017, 01:46:40 pm »

My guess is for compatibility with his O-clamps and/or existing trussing that uses the 1.5" plastic junction pieces.  I'll let Rich speak for himself though!  Hope this helps!

That's exactly it- for compatibility.

Great suggestions here!  I like the idea of going with EMT.  It's cheap and readily available.
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2017, 01:52:28 pm »

On eBay right now there are only 2 left aluminum 48" Ultimate Support bars listen as used from a store. Probably (maybe) store display or open box. Usually $46 at $29.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultimate-Support-LTB-48B-T-style-48-Lighting-Crossbar-Mounting-Brackets-/182759221937?epid=1800067133&hash=item2a8d4c6ab1:g:OEYAAOSw9GhYfyJA
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2017, 01:52:48 pm »

That's exactly it- for compatibility.

Great suggestions here!  I like the idea of going with EMT.  It's cheap and readily available.

1 1/4" EMT has an OD of 1.509"

It's heavier than Aluminum but pretty inexpensive and readily available.  Home Depot and like stores usually only sell it in 10ft sections. Easy to cut though.

Take a clamp with you to ensure it will fit correctly.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2017, 01:56:02 pm »

I'm in the process of switching out all my bars from steel to aluminum. Every little bit helps with the weight.
My fixtures are not too heavy so I can get away with it.
My stands are very heavy duty - Hercules - which is important to me but as long as the bars can hold the weight of the fixtures, aluminum makes sense for my purposes.
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2017, 01:50:55 pm »

The Ultimate stuff is great.   I keep 4 to 6 fixtures on each 4' cross bar.  Wired and ready to go.  My fixtures are mounted on 2 piece plastic flanges and are though bolted- no clamps.  Super light and the flanges allow the fixture to swivel for aiming.  IIRC those little flanges came from Ultimate as well.  1 piece of the set is 'cupped' to embrace the tube.  The other is more or less a thick washer.
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 11:37:52 am »

Here's an update on what I ultimately got.  I ended up with 1.5" dia, 48" long, 0.125" wall tubing from Industrial Metal Sales. I also got some 60" tubes as well.

I'm very happy with the order.  They were quick to respond to all my inquiries.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2017, 03:10:37 pm »

Here's an update on what I ultimately got.  I ended up with 1.5" dia, 48" long, 0.125" wall tubing from Industrial Metal Sales. I also got some 60" tubes as well.

I'm very happy with the order.  They were quick to respond to all my inquiries.

Dumb question, and apologies for the hijack.  For those of you using EMT or other pipe/tubing, how are you connecting the EMT to the stand.  Are there specific T-adapters that work well for this, or are you using cheeseboros?

Thanks.
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Re: Where to get lighting tripod stand crossbar?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2017, 05:00:44 pm »

Dumb question, and apologies for the hijack.  For those of you using EMT or other pipe/tubing, how are you connecting the EMT to the stand.  Are there specific T-adapters that work well for this, or are you using cheeseboros?

Thanks.

Ultimate Support does sell replacement parts for their products if you want the plastic "tees".  I think they have that size available.  Contact a USS dealer.
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