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Jeremy Young

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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2019, 11:26:59 pm »

Thanks Jeff that lens protector idea might just be the ticket!
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2019, 01:15:33 pm »

Your lights look great. In the band pictures you posted, are those the Dot Pars?

Regarding storage, why not just eliminate those C-clamps completely and bolt the lights directly to the T-bar?

I also use keyboard cases for my lights.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2019, 03:33:22 pm »

Hi Steve, thanks!  Those band photos were from just four Dotz Pars per side (8 total), I didn't have the Seven Par fixtures yet.  There was a delay on the order due to the True1 (or similar) electrical connector not meeting CSA (for Canada) or something like that but it got resolved fairly quickly.

As for bolting them direct, I had debated that (similar to how my Dotz Pars are simply bolted directly to the t-bar). 

I'm working with what I already had for t-bars (two that came with my ST-132 stands made of square tubing, and two tubular ones from Yorkville I already owned). 

The square ones fit nicely in the keyboard cases but the depth of the Seven Pars is a little much for those cases so I wanted to keep the Dotz Pars in there and that makes them the most portable since I use them at gigs where portability counts (the load-in for the first band photo included 11 stairs).

The tubular ones have screw holes, but they are too close together for the width of the Seven Pars.  Occasionally I'm given approval to hang lights from tent frames etc and I thought those clamps would be helpful for that, plus it gives me the option of mounting them vertically to my speaker tripods (ST-132's) when footprint counts.  The fact that the Yorkville tubular t-bars were the right length for that case seemed too perfect not to try.

I could use another set of crank up stands now, and another pair of ST-132's would fit the bill then I'd get another pair of those t-bars so I could bolt straight to the bar.... however then it would be too long for that case any way and I'd need to find a deeper keyboard case to transport those.  Round in circles I go!  Besides, I think I'd rather go with a Duratruss stand next time, save the cable/locking pins headache.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #73 on: March 27, 2019, 12:39:33 am »

Dt3900L is a great stand...

Ibe been transporting some inexpensive 9x10 LED pars on t-bars.  4 or 6 (2up, 4 down).  I load them last and lay the first on a quilt on top of my subs, next one goes in with the bars together, pars flat.  Another quilt.  Last 2 pars.  Fully wired.  Bungees in place.  Done that for a couple of years.

This season Ive moved to a truss rig so Ill be doing things differently.  Probably still piled on the subs, in spite of the trolley rig I built.

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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2019, 12:55:02 am »

Monoprice has a $100 6x10 color mixing in 65 par.  Thinking about those for my front washes.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=612790
« Last Edit: March 27, 2019, 01:01:54 am by Mal Brown »
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #75 on: March 27, 2019, 12:29:31 pm »

Thanks Mal, that's the stand that I'm considering.  Although the DT-Pro4000 looks pretty nice too, but I digress.

Thanks for the rundown on your loading techniques, the weather is getting a little nicer now so I might have to do a few test-packs and experiment with different options.

Sorry I don't have any experience with the monoprice products. 

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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2019, 03:09:22 am »

Your lights look great. In the band pictures you posted, are those the Dot Pars?

Regarding storage, why not just eliminate those C-clamps completely and bolt the lights directly to the T-bar?

I also use keyboard cases for my lights.

I am Blizzard fan, the Hotbox's are a good fixture.

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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2019, 11:48:55 am »

to keep that comment on topic Scott, how do you transport them?
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2019, 09:39:49 pm »

When my Hotbox fixtures go out (dry rental or my job), I pack them in three rows of three (front to front; back to back) in an EWI M-series case. A piece of packing blanket goes in between the upper and lower layers.  Up to 18 fixtures per case, with room for power cables.

Because I'm doing one-offs or rentals, I don't try to keep them pre-rigged.
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Re: Making a plan for a lighting upgrade
« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2019, 01:08:45 pm »

Thanks Mark, appreciate the tips.  I'm going to practice my LED tetris this weekend with various cases I already own and see what I can come up with.
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