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Diego Armando Fasotti

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Re: X32 + S16 popping with shielded cat5e cable and ethercon connectors
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2019, 06:37:04 am »

Hi! i have the same problem here. Any solution to the pops? The ethercon terminals with shielded cat5E should fix it? I think my cable is shielded, how can i view it?

Thanks.for all this information.
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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2019, 10:45:55 am »

Hi! i have the same problem here. Any solution to the pops? The ethercon terminals with shielded cat5E should fix it? I think my cable is shielded, how can i view it?

Thanks.for all this information.

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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2019, 01:30:37 pm »

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Re: X32 + S16 popping with shielded cat5e cable and ethercon connectors
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2019, 10:00:23 am »

Hi! i have the same problem here. Any solution to the pops? The ethercon terminals with shielded cat5E should fix it? I think my cable is shielded, how can i view it?

Thanks.for all this information.
If you're not already using a shielded ethercon cable between your mixer and snake that should be your first step. It is well documented that unshielded cables or cables without ethercon ends are not suitable for use with these devices.

If you are using an ethercon cable, test for continuity between the connector shells on either end of the cable. If there is no continuity, take one of the ends off and see if there is a protective foil (usually shaded light blue or silver) wrapped around the twisted pair bundle and if there is a drain wire (bare tinned wire separate from the twisted pairs). The drain wire should be soldered to the ehtercon shell on both ends, so do that and then re-test your cable.
If your cable has neither the foil or drain wire, you need a new cable. If your FOH run is 50m or less, get the Behringer/Midas/Klark-Teknik branded spool and it'll be guaranteed to work. If you're wanting to save a few bucks there are cheaper options, but you'll have to verify with the vendor that it is indeed shielded and properly grounded.
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Re: X32 + S16 popping with shielded cat5e cable and ethercon connectors
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2019, 04:03:18 pm »

If you're not already using a shielded ethercon cable between your mixer and snake that should be your first step. It is well documented that unshielded cables or cables without ethercon ends are not suitable for use with these devices.

If you are using an ethercon cable, test for continuity between the connector shells on either end of the cable. If there is no continuity, take one of the ends off and see if there is a protective foil (usually shaded light blue or silver) wrapped around the twisted pair bundle and if there is a drain wire (bare tinned wire separate from the twisted pairs). The drain wire should be soldered to the ehtercon shell on both ends, so do that and then re-test your cable.
If your cable has neither the foil or drain wire, you need a new cable. If your FOH run is 50m or less, get the Behringer/Midas/Klark-Teknik branded spool and it'll be guaranteed to work. If you're wanting to save a few bucks there are cheaper options, but you'll have to verify with the vendor that it is indeed shielded and properly grounded.
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This is all good advice.
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Re: X32 + S16 popping with shielded cat5e cable and ethercon connectors
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2019, 08:58:39 am »

Had a similar issue at a church install recently and added ART phantom power supplies to the condensers and turned off phantom power on those channels. No pops since then and the client is happy!

Hope this helps!

Kevin
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Re: X32 + S16 popping with shielded cat5e cable and ethercon connectors
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2019, 09:49:28 am »

Had a similar issue at a church install recently and added ART phantom power supplies to the condensers and turned off phantom power on those channels. No pops since then and the client is happy!

Hope this helps!

Kevin

To be clear, phantom power does not have anything to do with the pops experienced in the X/M32 digital transport system. I suspect you had other problems which were solved by the external 48V units.
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Re: X32 + S16 popping with shielded cat5e cable and ethercon connectors
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2019, 07:29:34 pm »

To be clear, phantom power does not have anything to do with the pops experienced in the X/M32 digital transport system. I suspect you had other problems which were solved by the external 48V units.

As Tim said - true, most of the X32 popping issue happened with no mics/DI's connected, or with mostly (all?) dynamic mics.  Two separate issues.  Read up on ESD and X32 pops.
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