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Al Rettich

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Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« on: August 25, 2017, 06:32:10 pm »

So I hear that using a external word clock that it sounds better.. Just recently bought a yamaha, wondering what word clock to purchase.. Not going to buy a Big Ben, but wondering if there is another great external word clock.
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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 09:01:35 pm »

So I hear that using a external word clock that it sounds better.. Just recently bought a yamaha, wondering what word clock to purchase.. Not going to buy a Big Ben, but wondering if there is another great external word clock.

The Placebo-foo is very strong.

See if you like the taste for less money:

https://www.blacklionaudio.com/store/products/clocking/micro-clock-mkii/

Streets for MAP of $299.

http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/244305-Rosendahl-NANOCLOCKS-GL

Streets for $2k.

You can spend double that if you don't like the economy or mid-priced Placebo.  I've heard both used and can't tell you there was anything audible between them...

The guys that use external clocks don't seem to rave about a particular clock, only that whatever they plug in will make the mix full of Automagical Wholesome Creamy Goodness.  I had one BE swear that his clock made this huge audible difference in the way the M7 sounded, all while the M7 was flashing "check clock source" and running on internal clock.  YMMV.
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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 09:10:38 pm »

Which Yamaha did you buy?

We bought a Big Ben because a guest engineer would not accept an M7 without it. Used it for that one festival and it hasn't been turned on since. That said, about a half dozen engineers have come through and noticed the turned off Big Ben in the FOH drive and commented... "You have Yamaha desks huh?"


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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 11:27:45 pm »

I can tell you that the guys that proselytize the external clock are the same guys that can't tell you why comb filtering is bad, or how a dual 15 and horn cabinet can't possibly have a good off axis response.

They spend money, plug it in, and say "wow"! It's just like the internet said it would be!
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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2017, 01:52:40 am »

So I hear that using a external word clock that it sounds better.. Just recently bought a yamaha, wondering what word clock to purchase.. Not going to buy a Big Ben, but wondering if there is another great external word clock.

This again?  Save your money.
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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2017, 02:28:51 am »

So I hear that using a external word clock that it sounds better.. Just recently bought a yamaha, wondering what word clock to purchase.. Not going to buy a Big Ben, but wondering if there is another great external word clock.

So what's wrong with the sound of whatever Yamaha you bought?
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2017, 10:06:45 am »

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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2017, 11:02:14 am »

So I hear that using a external word clock that it sounds better.. Just recently bought a yamaha, wondering what word clock to purchase.. Not going to buy a Big Ben, but wondering if there is another great external word clock.

Recently I deployed a system Avid Profile AES out to Yamaha QL1 traffic mixer, the return snake was Dante to RIO 3224, out AES to the amplifiers. Clocked the Profile from the QL1.

A few times over the course of the weekend I was asked about the clocking scheme, and eventually it would lead to the question "How does it sound?" My answer: "It sounds synchronized". This is what an external word clock in audio is for. Synchronizing multiple pieces of equipment together so digital interface will work properly.
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Re: Yamaha Digital console Clock??
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2017, 04:53:53 pm »

It was cheaper to buy a Big Ben for one festival than simply rent in a 5D ?  Been a long time since I had to put up with that silliness but I do remember more than a few touring engineers carying their own boutique clicks to make my 5D sound better. Less than half forgot to switch the clock source on the console but not much less than half. Save your money for stuff that actually makes money.



We bought a Big Ben because a guest engineer would not accept an M7 without it. Used it for that one festival and it hasn't been turned on since. That said, about a half dozen engineers have come through and noticed the turned off Big Ben in the FOH drive and commented... "You have Yamaha desks huh?"

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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2017, 08:39:11 pm »

It was cheaper to buy a Big Ben for one festival than simply rent in a 5D ?  Been a long time since I had to put up with that silliness but I do remember more than a few touring engineers carying their own boutique clicks to make my 5D sound better. Less than half forgot to switch the clock source on the console but not much less than half. Save your money for stuff that actually makes money.
I do forget the details as I didn't do the advance. We had a 5D already, but it may have already been slated for monitor world. I think the BE sold the usage of the clock during the advance as something we would really benefit from owning. Heck, someone just sold Al the same line.


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