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Mike Sokol

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Cell Phone Electrocution
« on: July 10, 2017, 09:38:22 pm »

Texas teen electrocuted after cell phone accidentally falls in bathtub

Amber Stegall
Jul 10, 2017 07:42 PM
LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - A 14-year-old girl from Lubbock died early Sunday morning after being electrocuted in a bathtub.

Madison Coe's mother and grandmother tell us she was in the bathtub, and either plugged her phone in or simply grabbed her phone that was already plugged in. It happened at her father's house in Lovington, NM.

Madison just graduated 8th grade from Terra Vista Middle School in Frenship ISD. She was in the band, played basketball and was very bright.

"It is with heavy hearts that Frenship ISD mourns the loss of Madison Coe. We wish to share our heartfelt sympathy with her family and friends as we carry the burden of this tragedy together," said officials with FISD.

Madison was expected to attend high school in Houston, as her family was in the process of moving.

Her family wants to spread a message of awareness, and to teach children the power of electricity and to not plug your phones in near water.
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Re: Cell Phone Electrocution
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2017, 10:19:27 pm »

I feel like something must be missing in this story....  a USB charger in water shouldn't fail in such a way to pass that much electricity...  I wonder if something else was afoot


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Re: Cell Phone Electrocution
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 10:44:20 pm »

I'm not buying it, as written.  I don't think the phone would survive the lethal AC voltage if the charger malfunctioned.  I'm thinking it's more likely the little charger block was plugged into a power strip or extension cord and the whole thing got pulled into the tub.

Or did it have help getting there?   :-\
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Re: Cell Phone Electrocution
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 10:54:22 pm »

Yup a UL cell phone charger should not kill a 8th grader in the bathtub...

There was a chinese airline stewardess killed a couple years ago in the bath, by a fake apple I phone charger, but it wasn't agency approved. Apple even went so far as to trade people good new apple chargers for the killer knock-offs in china.

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Re: Cell Phone Electrocution
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 11:31:40 pm »

Yup a UL cell phone charger should not kill a 8th grader in the bathtub...

There was a chinese airline stewardess killed a couple years ago in the bath, by a fake apple I phone charger, but it wasn't agency approved. Apple even went so far as to trade people good new apple chargers for the killer knock-offs in china.

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The allowable leakage current from a non-grounded appliance is less than 0.7 mA, which is just below the threshold of feeling a shock and certainly not dangerous. But if there was an insulation failure inside the wall charger, either due to poor non-UL design, physical damage, or water inclusion, then that leakage current could reach lethal levels. Our first question should be why wasn't there a GFCI protected receptacle within reach of the bathtub? A properly operating GFCI would have saved her life.
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Re: Cell Phone Electrocution
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2017, 06:05:56 am »

why wasn't there a GFCI protected receptacle within reach of the bathtub? A properly operating GFCI would have saved her life.
For the same reason people don't wear life vests and drown.
We have had 52 people drown in Ontario so far this year and 80% could have been avoided with  life vests.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2017, 09:40:59 am »

I'm not buying it, as written.  I don't think the phone would survive the lethal AC voltage if the charger malfunctioned.  I'm thinking it's more likely the little charger block was plugged into a power strip or extension cord and the whole thing got pulled into the tub.

Or did it have help getting there?   :-\
+1000  something else is going on.
A phone on the end of it's charging cable didn't do this.
Figure the kid reached in for the phone, with her other hand on the spout or valve for support. She was perfectly grounded, with the maximum effect on her heart. But, a USB charger?
If she was IN the full tub, the effect would have been more spread out.

We don't have the whole story, and a kid shouldn't have died playing with a phone.
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Re: Cell Phone Electrocution
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2017, 12:08:00 pm »

Somewhat related.  Interesting still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrY59nGxBg
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 12:49:47 pm »

Somewhat related.  Interesting still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcrY59nGxBg

The comments were enough to make me not watch the video.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2017, 02:07:48 pm »

The comments were enough to make me not watch the video.

The comments made me want to watch it again.  :)
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