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[David Allred]

I am wanting to leave a few gear to gear connections via XLR with rack cover on for storage.  The rack is SKB / Gator style case with the standard 2" deep lids.  I don't want to use right angle xlr's if other options are available.
I came across these... Neutrik NC3MXX-WOB.  The description is very non-descript as to it's intended purpose.  Are these bootless connectors functional as is, or are they simply for people that have boots and don't want to buy more boots?
I think I need to lose at least 3/4", I think  Any other options?

[Mal Brown]

Personally I use neutrik 90 deg XLR connectors where necessary.   All my I/O is hardwired using Middle Atlantic or Audiopile rack panels. On the rack fronts as well.  I like not digging around in the racks.

[Mark Cadwallader]

Boots (bushings) are available in multiple colors for customizing and color coding. Can you live without the strain relief for the cable?  If so, then try it without and see if it is durable enough for your use.

[Brian Adams]

Without boot means that it's the same connector, it just doesn't have a boot. If you already had boots, or wanted colored boots instead of the standard black ones, you could save some money by buying the connector without the boot. They won't work for your intended purpose though.

[David Allred]

Personally I use neutrik 90 deg XLR connectors where necessary.   All my I/O is hardwired using Middle Atlantic or Audiopile rack panels. On the rack fronts as well.  I like not digging around in the racks.

This is a front to front connection.  MR18 outputs to front patch panel inputs.  5 total patches.  Beginning to think that the time required to make the cables (plus $70-ish) is not really worth minimal time saved.  Mr. Murphy said the set-up will change and at least 2 cables will no longer be long enough.

[David Allred]

Can you live without the strain relief for the cable?  If so, then try it without and see if it is durable enough for your use.

I may play with a partial that I have laying around just to see how practical it is.

[Tim McCulloch]

I am wanting to leave a few gear to gear connections via XLR with rack cover on for storage.  The rack is SKB / Gator style case with the standard 2" deep lids.  I don't want to use right angle xlr's if other options are available.
I came across these... Neutrik NC3MXX-WOB.  The description is very non-descript as to it's intended purpose.  Are these bootless connectors functional as is, or are they simply for people that have boots and don't want to buy more boots?
I think I need to lose at least 3/4", I think  Any other options?

The normal thing to do is to move the rack rails back further in the rack, but I doubt that's possible with the SKB...

I think your follow up post about the nature of your patch changing and probably just manually patching a few connections is the best solution for the moment.  You might also end up moving the equipment to a different rack at some point and have enough room to leave things connected.

[Erik Jerde]

There are various brackets out there that will allow you to mount gear back further from the rails if you have the depth available.  A quick search led me to these:  http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/standoff_rack_extender.asp

I've seen others of a different style too.  That's probably your best bet if you can't use 90s.

[TJ (Tom) Cornish]

There are various brackets out there that will allow you to mount gear back further from the rails if you have the depth available.  A quick search led me to these:  http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/standoff_rack_extender.asp

I've seen others of a different style too.  That's probably your best bet if you can't use 90s.

I have used these and they do the job.

http://www.middleatlantic.com/products/accessories/hardware-fasteners/other-hardware/rr2-3rcn.aspx

[Mark Cadwallader]

Long 10-32 cap screws, and nuts and flat washers, allow you to recess any unit to more or less any depth you need. The cap screw is threaded all the way in to the rail, and then the nuts and washers are adjusted on the inside of the rail to the correct recess needed. It is a bit of a PITA, but you can get the hardware you need from your favorite local hardware store. A hollow shaft nutdriver (or deep socket) makes it go faster.

[Erik Jerde]

I have used these and they do the job.

http://www.middleatlantic.com/products/accessories/hardware-fasteners/other-hardware/rr2-3rcn.aspx

That's what I was thinking of!

[Alec Spence]

There's a community of XR18 users who have 3d printing patterns for rack ears, including options for setting the mixer further back in the rack case.

Better still, some have holes in the bracket that allow an XLR cable to pass from front to back, which might help in your situation.

[David Allred]

Thanks all.

[Rick Earl]

There are these nice compact right angle with color coded caps:
http://www.redco.com/CT-LPXLR-3M-K-Low-Profile-Right-Angle-Male-XLR.html

Redco also makes some nice recess brackets:
http://www.redco.com/Recessed-Rack-Panel-Recess-Kit-1-Pair.html

[Jay Marr]

Aren't the MR18/XR18 rack ears reversible, specifically so you can mount it further back in a rack case?

[David Allred]

Aren't the MR18/XR18 rack ears reversible, specifically so you can mount it further back in a rack case?

For a front rail mount, reversing the ears would effectively extend the unit face OUT, if memory serves, about 1/2".  Behringer / Midas could easily have made the mixer attachment flange much longer/deeper with additional holes spaced 1/2" apart.  Would have added, what, $.25 to the cost?

[David Allred]

I cut the flex-boot off right at the shell.  It still has a partial liner, so the cable rubs on a bit of poly(?) instead of steal (if it even matters).  The cable gripper in still employed and the cable bend height is sufficiently low for the cover to close.

[Dave Pluke]

There are these nice compact right angle with color coded caps:
http://www.redco.com/CT-LPXLR-3M-K-Low-Profile-Right-Angle-Male-XLR.html

Those look good - thanks for posting.  I've tried using "conventional" right angle XLR's in a rack application before, but they always seem to interfere with something above or below the unit being connected.

Dave

[Pete Erskine]

I am wanting to leave a few gear to gear connections via XLR with rack cover on for storage.  The rack is SKB / Gator style case with the standard 2" deep lids.  I don't want to use right angle xlr's if other options are available.
I came across these... Neutrik NC3MXX-WOB.  The description is very non-descript as to it's intended purpose.  Are these bootless connectors functional as is, or are they simply for people that have boots and don't want to buy more boots?
I think I need to lose at least 3/4", I think  Any other options?

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Switchcraft/AAA3MBYYLP?qs=qSfuJ%252Bfl%2Fd54K88u4CVaOQ%3D%3D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw-KeqseW7AIVSf_jBx0F6QUpEAQYAyABEgLcXvD_BwE

[Jordan Wolf]

A lot of on-location sound mixers use such connectors and cable assemblies.

[Mark Scrivener]

There are various brackets out there that will allow you to mount gear back further from the rails if you have the depth available.  A quick search led me to these:  http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/standoff_rack_extender.asp

I've seen others of a different style too.  That's probably your best bet if you can't use 90s.

I use these as well. In fact I have some in a Gator molded rack case - similar to the SKB. Works like a charm.

[Sam Costa]

I am wanting to leave a few gear to gear connections via XLR with rack cover on for storage.  The rack is SKB / Gator style case with the standard 2" deep lids.  I don't want to use right angle xlr's if other options are available.
I came across these... Neutrik NC3MXX-WOB.  The description is very non-descript as to it's intended purpose.  Are these bootless connectors functional as is, or are they simply for people that have boots and don't want to buy more boots?
I think I need to lose at least 3/4", I think  Any other options?

I’ve been using these shorter capsules from Cable Techniques. They are a bit pricey but they are solid metal capsules and well built.
This is an older photo of my one of my older digital racks that I used on my mixbuss connectors, I’ve added 20 low profile connectors to my inputs from my snake and it’s nice and tidy.

[Luis_Marquez]

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Switchcraft/AAA3MBYYLP?qs=qSfuJ%252Bfl%2Fd54K88u4CVaOQ%3D%3D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw-KeqseW7AIVSf_jBx0F6QUpEAQYAyABEgLcXvD_BwE

Pete

Thanks for the link. I got some on order through Markertek to try out. https://www.markertek.com/product/sw-aaa3mblp/switchcraft-aaa3mblp-low-profile-3-position-male-xlr-connector-black

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