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Pete Erskine

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2017, 10:22:12 pm »


Yesterday 6/15/17 the FCC issued T-Mobile hundreds of licenses for 600 MHz operations at many locations around the USA.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 09:02:57 am »

Yesterday 6/15/17 the FCC issued T-Mobile hundreds of licenses for 600 MHz operations at many locations around the USA.

I'm assuming It won't be long for our area, T-Mobile is already putting in lots of co-location permits where I live to start deploying the physical infrastructure...  while I knew it was coming, the speed at which we are losing spectrum post-auction is much faster than I expected. 


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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 09:23:02 am »

Yesterday 6/15/17 the FCC issued T-Mobile hundreds of licenses for 600 MHz operations at many locations around the USA.

Do you have a link that lists the locations and frequencies of these licenses? How much power will these sites be? In other words how much of an area will be affected by each site? I am just wondering if this is anything that will affect anyone around where I am. Or am I asking the wrong questions or in the wrong way?
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2017, 12:23:20 pm »

Do you have a link that lists the locations and frequencies of these licenses? How much power will these sites be? In other words how much of an area will be affected by each site? I am just wondering if this is anything that will affect anyone around where I am. Or am I asking the wrong questions or in the wrong way?

There's some interactive maps here:

http://www.spectrumgateway.com/600-mhz-spectrum

It doesn't seem to list actual frequencies that I can tell, but does show bandwidth.  T-Mobile looks like they are the largest consumer of the 600MHz spectrum, and according to various news articles from this week, plan on rolling out things in that band by the end of the year. 
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Re: Post Auction/Repack
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2017, 07:50:11 pm »

Yesterday 6/15/17 the FCC issued T-Mobile hundreds of licenses for 600 MHz operations at many locations around the USA.

I've been looking at the licenses issued in my market, combined with the re-pack info, and it appears there will be plenty of 600MHz whitespace left after all is said. Is there any legal reason that I won't be able to operate 600MHz equipment, provided it doesn't interfere with any licensees?
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2017, 11:51:26 am »

I've been looking at the licenses issued in my market, combined with the re-pack info, and it appears there will be plenty of 600MHz whitespace left after all is said. Is there any legal reason that I won't be able to operate 600MHz equipment, provided it doesn't interfere with any licensees?

Yes: The legal reasons are: 1) Those bands sold at auction are no longer allocated to Part 74 broadcast auxiliary or Part 15 services, and 2) the equipment you own now that can operate in the auctioned bands will automatically lose its FCC certification July 2020. Thus, you would be operating uncertified / non-approved equipment, and doing so in licensed bands without a license. (Last I recall, fines were $11,600.00 per day per incident, where each transmission, or channel, is considered and "incident", but do check with your telecommunications counsel.)

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2017, 12:06:07 pm »

Yes: The legal reasons are: 1) Those bands sold at auction are no longer allocated to Part 74 broadcast auxiliary or Part 15 services, and 2) the equipment you own now that can operate in the auctioned bands will automatically lose its FCC certification July 2020. Thus, you would be operating uncertified / non-approved equipment, and doing so in licensed bands without a license. (Last I recall, fines were $11,600.00 per day per incident, where each transmission, or channel, is considered and "incident", but do check with your telecommunications counsel.)

Bummer. In our market there's only 20MHz of downlink and 20MHz of uplink that was purchased between T-Mobile and Dish Network. That leaves a lot of bandwidth that I could easily use with some Lectrosonics Block 25 and C3-banded BTR's which would both be well clear of the licensed bands. Do all Part 74 and 15 devices lose their FCC certification for any 600MHz operation effective July 2020? Seems a shame to lose 100MHz of spectrum to 40MHz of licenses.
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2017, 12:37:14 pm »

Bummer. In our market there's only 20MHz of downlink and 20MHz of uplink that was purchased between T-Mobile and Dish Network. That leaves a lot of bandwidth that I could easily use with some Lectrosonics Block 25 and C3-banded BTR's which would both be well clear of the licensed bands. Do all Part 74 and 15 devices lose their FCC certification for any 600MHz operation effective July 2020? Seems a shame to lose 100MHz of spectrum to 40MHz of licenses.

Any current equipment that can tune to a frequency =>614  will lose its cert at that time. There is however consideration at FCC (which will be voted upon Wednesday 6/28) that if the OEM can provide a firmware update so the affected equipment will be restricted in the tuning to the 614-617 range and duplex gap at the 20mW power level, the equipment will automatically receive a new certification, but if approved, that compliance mechanism would need to be worked out.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2017, 07:52:54 pm »

Any current equipment that can tune to a frequency =>614  will lose its cert at that time. There is however consideration at FCC (which will be voted upon Wednesday 6/28) that if the OEM can provide a firmware update so the affected equipment will be restricted in the tuning to the 614-617 range and duplex gap at the 20mW power level, the equipment will automatically receive a new certification, but if approved, that compliance mechanism would need to be worked out.
Hi Henry,

What are your thoughts on part 74 licensees applying for STA or Experimental service licenses in 600 band spectrum on blocks not licensed to telecom at specific locations? I remember reading about a certain professional wireless sys... er, company doing just that for gigs after the 700 MHz reallocations, with equipment that had lost certification.

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2017, 07:59:53 pm »

Hi Henry,

What are your thoughts on part 74 licensees applying for STA or Experimental service licenses in 600 band spectrum on blocks not licensed to telecom at specific locations? I remember reading about a certain professional wireless sys... er, company doing just that for gigs after the 700 MHz reallocations, with equipment that had lost certification.

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Speaking Los Angeles, Block G went unauctioned in that market. That's 10MHz of unused, and unusable spectrum in a market that will probably end up with 18MHz-24MHz of useable spectrum.
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