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Nick Andrews

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What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:27:33 am »

Hi guys,

I am going to be doing a small weekly outdoor event starting next week through the early fall. This is not going to be very high spl , and the gear i'm using is pretty efficient. In fact I normally run it off of 2 circuits without an issue.

System is
rcf nxl24a x 2
rcf 8004as x 2
rcf nx15sma x 4
rcf nx12sma  x 2
plus a small mixer rack , either x32rack or m32r with a few wireless mics.
plus power will be needed for the bands equipment (1 guitar amp, 1 bass amp, keyboards, so on)

The event space is under a building overhang, and is pretty well protected from the elements in case of rain but it is still technically outdoors.

There is only 1) 20 amp circuit available where the performance will be,  I will need to run feeder to a breaker panel where the building engineer said they could tie us in. This approx 200 feet away.

I have in my inventory a amp shop distro, and approx 250 feet of 6/4 soow feeder with CS twist connectors.

My question to you is, what is the correct way to do this?

Many thanks in advance!
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What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 12:06:40 pm »

Edit: Pick up a Honda Inverter generator.

Perhaps you could be a little more specific with your question.


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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2017, 12:40:23 pm »

Hvae the venue hire an electrician to install the appropriate CS receptacle so you can plug your distro in, would be the ideal way-or the Honda inverter is not a bad idea either.
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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 12:45:00 pm »

Have the venue hire an electrician to install the appropriate CS receptacle so you can plug your distro in, would be the ideal way-or the Honda inverter is not a bad idea either.

This is ideal. In the long run, it will be cheaper than having the building engineer (or an electrician) tie you in & out 15 times over the course of the summer.

Tie-ins are fine for one-off events, but for a repeating event, having a cord-and-plug connection is preferable.
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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 12:46:49 pm »

The voltage drop over 200' of 6/4 awg cable is pretty significant, IIRC.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 01:35:04 pm »

The voltage drop over 200' of 6/4 awg cable is pretty significant, IIRC.

Even pulling 30A per leg the drop will only be 5 volts or 4.7% less if he's pulling lower current. Plenty of power, in this case.
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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 02:13:58 pm »

In the long term, buying a Honda EU7000is is the best investment.  Besids being able to use it on this job, you'll have it at your disposal year 'round and, very importantly, you'll cut down your cable runs and reduce your liability factor hugely.

This should be a no-brainer.
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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 02:14:54 pm »

Even pulling 30A per leg the drop will only be 5 volts or 4.7% less if he's pulling lower current. Plenty of power, in this case.

Thank you for the Info and replies everyone. I guess to be more specific , is running 6/4 tied into the panel by the building engineer with a cs connector to my distro safe/ legal and ok to do by code ?

Client was not thrilled about having to use a generator.... I would like to own one though , although it would change my logistics a bit ( would need to bring my larger truck)
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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 04:33:18 pm »

Thank you for the Info and replies everyone. I guess to be more specific , is running 6/4 tied into the panel by the building engineer with a cs connector to my distro safe/ legal and ok to do by code ?
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The answer is "It depends"

We don't know what state you're in or what local code allows. This it why it's recommended to get an electrical contractor involved and just go ahead and install a permanent CS50 plug at the panel or wherever it's convenient.

In the valley I'm in, the parks & rec people have already done this to accommodate these types of event. It also allows them to run vendor booths and such off spider boxes or whatever else they'd like to run whenever they want to, with no additional electrical work having to take place.
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Re: What is the correct way to do this outdoor event
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 05:06:14 pm »

Hi,

The event is in Ny city, I am based out of NJ. Unfortunately they do not want to install anything permanent this year. I can however leave the feeder there and just pull it out the day of the event. 
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