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Scott Holtzman

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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2024, 07:58:10 PM »

Hey Dave..... I have continued to use V3 this whole time and the way I have things set up, I see no benefit (for myself) to paying $10 month for basically the same service - the extras that come with V4 do not interest me although I would understand others feeling differently. I do have to make sure I keep 'auto update' turned off on my iPads (got caught once before and had to restore an earlier saved iPad memory from Time Machine).


Curiosity Debbie what controller do you use with Luminair?  The docs are confusing.  Some say you have to use an Ethernet Dongle.  I have several Chavet USB to DMX interfaces I use with Showexpres.  I wonder if one of those will work.


So question is can you connect a USB interface direct to iPad?  If Yes which one do you recommend if no what Ethernet hardware and DMX interface do you recommend.


If it has to be Ethernet can you use the wireless to a wireless bridge then connect the interface so you are not constrained by the wiring?


Thanks, sorry for the multipart questions.



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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2024, 08:37:27 PM »


Curiosity Debbie what controller do you use with Luminair?  The docs are confusing.  Some say you have to use an Ethernet Dongle.  I have several Chavet USB to DMX interfaces I use with Showexpres.  I wonder if one of those will work.


So question is can you connect a USB interface direct to iPad?  If Yes which one do you recommend if no what Ethernet hardware and DMX interface do you recommend.


If it has to be Ethernet can you use the wireless to a wireless bridge then connect the interface so you are not constrained by the wiring?


Thanks, sorry for the multipart questions.

On the iPad, USB to DMX interfaces are NOT supported.  On the Mac version, they support the Enttec and DMXking interfaces. If the Chauvet can emulate that, it MIGHT work.

You do NOT need hard wired ethernet for Luminair to work. It works fine over WIFI.  It works with any Art-Net or sACN network interfaces.

I've used both The ENttec device and the Chauvet device. The Chauvet device is significantly cheaper, but be aware that you have to configure the network for it on a Mac or a PC. Can't get the stupid thing set up if you ONLY have the ipad along.  This is only for initial configuration.  Keep that in mind!

I hard wire my interface with POE power so it's pretty simple to set up. Just run Ethernet and DMX pops out the other end.  iPad can connect via WiFI, but remember that a dropped connection means loss of lighting control.  An ethernet cable to the iPad helps with reliability.

Now that they offer the Mac app, I'm definitely considering using that instead, then using the iPad to remotely control the mac.  That way if WIFI gets wonky, the connection still functions.

For MIDI controllers, you can use whatever you want, then program buttons on the controller to do what you need them to do.  It's pretty sweet.
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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2024, 12:02:18 AM »

On the iPad, USB to DMX interfaces are NOT supported.  On the Mac version, they support the Enttec and DMXking interfaces. If the Chauvet can emulate that, it MIGHT work.

You do NOT need hard wired ethernet for Luminair to work. It works fine over WIFI.  It works with any Art-Net or sACN network interfaces.

I've used both The ENttec device and the Chauvet device. The Chauvet device is significantly cheaper, but be aware that you have to configure the network for it on a Mac or a PC. Can't get the stupid thing set up if you ONLY have the ipad along.  This is only for initial configuration.  Keep that in mind!

I hard wire my interface with POE power so it's pretty simple to set up. Just run Ethernet and DMX pops out the other end.  iPad can connect via WiFI, but remember that a dropped connection means loss of lighting control.  An ethernet cable to the iPad helps with reliability.

Now that they offer the Mac app, I'm definitely considering using that instead, then using the iPad to remotely control the mac.  That way if WIFI gets wonky, the connection still functions.

For MIDI controllers, you can use whatever you want, then program buttons on the controller to do what you need them to do.  It's pretty sweet.


I don't have Artnet or sACN fixtures I need regular DMX 3 or 5 pin.  Can you walk me through the signal chain using the wifi on the ipad, ipad only .



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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2024, 01:18:24 AM »

I use: 
Luminair on Ipad over wifi to a router. 
Router via ethernet cable to the DMXking.  (correction Enttec ODE mk2).
DK to Donner DMX Tx. 
Wirelessly (around 50') to Donner Rx to DMX cables and all my fixtures.
Has worked flawlessly for 5 years.
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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2024, 03:13:54 AM »

I use: 
Luminair on Ipad over wifi to a router. 
Router via ethernet cable to the DMXking. 
DK to Donner DMX Tx. 
Wirelessly (around 50') to Donner Rx to DMX cables and all my fixtures.
Has worked flawlessly for 5 years.


Are you using the eDMX1 Max interface?


Thanks for the simple explanation.



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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2024, 01:29:11 PM »

Oops, the DMXKing is in an install.  Im usinf the Enttec ODEmk2.
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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2024, 05:21:47 PM »


I don't have Artnet or sACN fixtures I need regular DMX 3 or 5 pin.  Can you walk me through the signal chain using the wifi on the ipad, ipad only .

The app runs on the ipad.  It speaks  Art-Net or sACN, which gets sent over WIFI to your access point which connects to your ethernet network. You plug in your ethernet to DMX adaptor which reads that signal and converts it to standard DMX.  It's relatively simple.

 
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2024, 07:44:00 PM »

The app runs on the ipad.  It speaks  Art-Net or sACN, which gets sent over WIFI to your access point which connects to your ethernet network. You plug in your ethernet to DMX adaptor which reads that signal and converts it to standard DMX.  It's relatively simple.


I get it.  Dave's PIC helped too.   I was overcomplicating it.


Do the Enttec controllers have to be the ODE series or will this work?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/276418826396



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Re: Android Only dmx Controller
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2024, 09:19:04 PM »


I get it.  Dave's PIC helped too.   I was overcomplicating it.


Do the Enttec controllers have to be the ODE series or will this work?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/276418826396

Yes, that unit will work.  Be aware of the 7v input voltage.  9 volt supplies will blow it up. Ask me how I know. lol.
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