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Dave Bednarski

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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2017, 11:57:43 PM »

Dave would you mind posting a picture of this if you have time ?
We have a bunch of kw stuff and always looking for faster in and out.  often doing solo shows.
single 153 over 2 181's is a great ratio imo.

Sorry for the delay... snapped some photos at the job tonight.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-0udqk8alQlOXlZNDctQVppWHc?usp=sharing

or/same/@

http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(39).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(38).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(37).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(41).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(40).jpg

These angle iron frames are too big... the ding dong at the fabricator forgot to deduct the width of the angle iron from the inside dimension.  :)  Free works for me.  Also is a photo of my pig tail I made to to link both.

Will try and find a good photo of the 153s stacked on them from the job.

I pref the sound of the 181 when sitting on the floor... but for most of my jobs they thumb OK in this single man config.
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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2017, 07:45:58 AM »

Sorry for the delay... snapped some photos at the job tonight.


http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(39).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(38).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(37).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(41).jpg
http://dbmisc.s3.amazonaws.com/kw181/FullSizeRender%20(40).jpg

These angle iron frames are too big... the ding dong at the fabricator forgot to deduct the width of the angle iron from the inside dimension.  :)  Free works for me.  Also is a photo of my pig tail I made to to link both.

Will try and find a good photo of the 153s stacked on them from the job.

I pref the sound of the 181 when sitting on the floor... but for most of my jobs they thumb OK in this single man config.
All pics give me an access denied error, fyi...

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

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David Morison

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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2017, 09:42:38 AM »

All pics give me an access denied error, fyi...

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Working fine for me, (Chrome on Win7), are you using anything like a scriptblocker that may be more aggressive then necessary perhaps?
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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2017, 10:17:17 AM »

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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2017, 12:59:17 PM »

You've been given some great advice here. There are some really great sounding powered speakers available to us today. I own or have worked with everything discussed. Here's my brief impressions:

I too think it is a good idea to have a matched, single brand system.

KW181 - great sounding sub, and fairly small. The only downside is I'm not as big of a fan of their matching KW tops, which don't have the warmth and clarity of an SRX or Yamaha top.

SRX818 - also great sounding sub, gets plenty loud and deeper than my PRX sub's, but as one poster stated it sometimes lack that "punch" I'm looking for. I'm still learning with this PA and haven't used much EQ if any. My SRX system is (1) 815 over 818 per side, and is plenty adequate for even outdoor shows of 600-800. I do a summer concert in the park series with this system - sounds great. The 815 tops are fantastic but heavy. You'll need HD extension poles with these. I think if I were buying today I would get the 12" tops in lieu of the 15's.

Yamaha DXS18 - There is one in a club were I run the house system, and it reminds me of my SRX818, except not as warm sounding. It's really loud and deep though. The tops are K12's, which make fantastic monitors IMO. I also have a bunch of DSR112's which I use for floor monitors. They get crazy loud and are very clear and linear to my ears, but I prefer the JBL sound for mains. A pair of DSR's over the DXS18 sub's would make for a great sounding system, and it would have a much lower cost than the SRX stuff.

JBL PRX800 - You should be looking at this as well. I was going to sell mine (600 series) after purchasing the SRX last year, but in the end I kept it, and it actually get's used more. It is really light weight, and sounds great for small clubs with crowds up to 200-250. I run a 615 over a 618xlf per side.

Double 18's - I would certainly have dual 18's per side if I had room to transport them. If you do buy a trailer, then I highly recommend dual 18's. With all of the systems noted above, they would all sound better for rock music with dual 18's. There have been occasions that I ran a single stack, with both 18's under one top, and it really sounded fantastic. I need to get a trailer myself! As mentioned, the SRX 828 cab is the most economical route for this.

Mixwiz - Was a great board for it's time, but the small digital boards just plain sound better, and are more capable in a smaller, lighter package. I went from a Mixwiz to the suggested Mackie DL1608 4 years ago, and never looked back. The EQ's on each channel and output are really full-featured, and just a delight to use. I only use the parametric EQ's on the outputs now, which IMO are far better than the graphic EQ's (also available). Compression & gate on every channel, effects, etc - you no longer need a processing rack. There are many other great digital boards available as well, as others have mentioned. The A&H Qu series comes to mind if you want physical faders.

Pretty much do this as well. For smaller gigs use prx615s w 618xlf. Great system. Use SRX 725s and 728s. Setting up a chance to hear the srx835s, to possibly use with the 728s. 728s are hard to beat.
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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2017, 06:11:59 PM »

Pretty much do this as well. For smaller gigs use prx615s w 618xlf. Great system. Use SRX 725s and 728s. Setting up a chance to hear the srx835s, to possibly use with the 728s. 728s are hard to beat.

There's a single 728 at one of the local clubs I work at, and man that thing sounds great. I need to get a trailer!
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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2017, 06:17:51 PM »

There's a single 728 at one of the local clubs I work at, and man that thing sounds great. I need to get a trailer!
I wouldn't have a dozen of them if they sucked. Trying to see if I can get at least 6 more... waiting to hear back yes or no from JBL. :)

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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2017, 09:46:08 PM »

I wouldn't have a dozen of them if they sucked. Trying to see if I can get at least 6 more... waiting to hear back yes or no from JBL. :)

-Ray
The SRX 7XX series was a really good line all the way around IMO.  The 715, 722, and 728 being the stars of the show in my book.
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Re: PA Growth Strategy for a Rock Band
« Reply #49 on: April 05, 2017, 07:25:54 PM »

Hi All

Still working on finding a trailer. If that works out I will likely start with a single 828 as that seems to be the obvious choice for a 2x18.

In the meantime, I ponied up and ordered a Qu16.
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