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Weatherproof Outlet?
« on: March 27, 2017, 03:51:58 pm »

Yes, if you need to fit a wall-wart transformer into a weatherproof cover receptacle, there's only one logical way...

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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 04:06:52 pm »

And we are to presume that duplex outlet is protected by a GFCI circuit breaker?
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 04:08:39 pm »

And we are to presume that duplex outlet is protected by a GFCI circuit breaker?

Oh, of course!!!  ;)
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 07:45:16 pm »

This is located right outside of a modern church next to their outside fountain. I think the wart powered some 12 volt lights around the exterior of the water display. So wet ground, maybe no GFCI, and an interior grade duplex receptacle with a non-watertight 12 volt transformer that could be soaked by the rain. What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2017, 09:26:30 pm »

Yes, if you need to fit a wall-wart transformer into a weatherproof cover receptacle, there's only one logical way...


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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 12:49:07 am »


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Looks to me like it HAD such a cover, but the cover was broken off because the wall wart didn't fit under it. Or because it was hanging open because the wall wart didn't fit, and got broken when someone or something was moved past it.
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 06:41:42 am »

Looks to me like it HAD such a cover, but the cover was broken off because the wall wart didn't fit under it. Or because it was hanging open because the wall wart didn't fit, and got broken when someone or something was moved past it.
Yes, that's exactly how I read it.
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 12:33:45 pm »

The cast aluminum/zinc ones are a lot more durable-cost about double, but one replacement and you're money ahead.  Even plastic ones now have to be rated "extra duty"-the original ones were just too flimsy.  They were good for inspections, but that was about it.
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 03:41:25 pm »

The cast aluminum/zinc ones are a lot more durable-cost about double, but one replacement and you're money ahead.  Even plastic ones now have to be rated "extra duty"-the original ones were just too flimsy.  They were good for inspections, but that was about it.

I know of a few cases where the in-use cover was in place long enough for the inspection, then swapped out for an old-style weathertight cover afterwards.

So many people hate the in-use covers, especially when they protrude into a walkway. The covers can be difficult to open if you're not used to them. Getting a heavy cord to fit in them with the cover closed is a challenge (they seem to be designed with orange cords in mind). Homeowners think they look like an ugly wart on the front of the house.

But, yeah, I prefer the cast ones. They seem to last longer, but they're still not particularly impact resistant.
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Re: Weatherproof Oulet?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 03:53:43 pm »

The cast aluminum/zinc ones are a lot more durable-cost about double, but one replacement and you're money ahead.  Even plastic ones now have to be rated "extra duty"-the original ones were just too flimsy.  They were good for inspections, but that was about it.

I like this one or this one. Steel, rather than cast aluminum. Plenty of space in the enclosure for wiring. Solidly attached cover that doesn't bind.

Even though the Home Depot page says "GE" they are made by Midwest Electric. Also available in gray (but maybe not from HD). Still doesn't solve the ugly-wart-on-the-front-of-the-house problem, though.


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