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[RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS]

Looking for a very high quality trap box and this is on my radar.  The AL8 is my favorite midsize line array. 

I have only used the H15 one time as sidefill monitors so I have limited experience with them.

I need a one box per side rig that must be flyable with fairly wide coverage, high output and excellent sound quality.  Must be powered with weight less than about 80#.  It must be very good looking also due to demands of picky event coordinators.

The application will be for anything from talking heads to corporate bands.  Vocal clarity is very important.  Typical listening area would be about 50'  wide by 70' long.

Are any of you using the Vue H15W or H12W?  For those of you who are using them, please share experiences about how they have performed in similar applications.

Keep in mind that I work in very hot conditions compared to just about everyone else.  How has the Amp module handles adverse conditions?

Please do not recommend the Danley SM80.  I know these forums have become a fan zone but I have reasons for it not being on my short list.

[Drew Kirkland]

Have you thought about Funktion One res2 . Point source  exceedingly hi quality and very efficient. Does not need a dsp. Just quality amps and a decent xover.

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[Drew Kirkland]

http://www.funktion-one.com/products/res-2/

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[RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS]

Have you thought about Funktion One res2 . Point source  exceedingly hi quality and very efficient. Does not need a dsp. Just quality amps and a decent xover.

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You didn't read my post.  Must be powered, fairly wide coverage and less than about 80#. Also, not into the sound of Funktion One.  These are not going to be used by DJs or in night clubs.  No one will be requesting Funktion One.  They meet Zero aspects of my criteria.

[Drew Kirkland]

Sorry didn't see the powered part. F1 are used for everything from classical through rock to rave. They are not just dj speakers they are probably the best sounding system currently available and you should track some down set them up and have a shot. Many worldwide touring bands now favour the transparency and lack of processing they give.

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[Chrysander 'C.R.' Young]

Sorry didn't see the powered part. F1 are used for everything from classical through rock to rave. They are not just dj speakers they are probably the best sounding system currently available and you should track some down set them up and have a shot. Many worldwide touring bands now favour the transparency and lack of processing they give.

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This may be true, but they also look like a weapon system from a Klingon starship, which is rather counter to the OP's goal of pleasing picky event organizers.   

[Jeffrey Knorr - JRKLabs.com]

Hi Ryan,

I don't have direct experience with the Vue cabinets either.  I can heartily recommend the Fulcrum Acoustics FA22ac though.  It's a dual 12" co-ax that sounds like a studio monitor and only weighs 60 LBS. Internally bi-amped via Powersoft amp modules--should be nearly bulletproof.  If I were in the market for a high powered trap box, these would be on my short list.

Jeff

[Adam Robinson]

Looking for a very high quality trap box and this is on my radar.  The AL8 is my favorite midsize line array. 

I have only used the H15 one time as sidefill monitors so I have limited experience with them.

I need a one box per side rig that must be flyable with fairly wide coverage, high output and excellent sound quality.  Must be powered with weight less than about 80#.  It must be very good looking also due to demands of picky event coordinators.

The application will be for anything from talking heads to corporate bands.  Vocal clarity is very important.  Typical listening area would be about 50'  wide by 70' long.

Are any of you using the Vue H15W or H12W?  For those of you who are using them, please share experiences about how they have performed in similar applications.

Keep in mind that I work in very hot conditions compared to just about everyone else.  How has the Amp module handles adverse conditions?

Please do not recommend the Danley SM80.  I know these forums have become a fan zone but I have reasons for it not being on my short list.

I used these boxes as nearfield monitors for a tour production rehearsal.  The rehearsal spot we were at had them on hand, so it meant I could try something new (and bring something in if I didn't like them).  While I can't speak to how great they'll perform in the heat, I was very impressed with audio and build quality.

[Drew Kirkland]

This may be true, but they also look like a weapon system from a Klingon starship, which is rather counter to the OP's goal of pleasing picky event organizers.   

You could be right with that one.

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[Doug Fowler]

I used these boxes as nearfield monitors for a tour production rehearsal.  The rehearsal spot we were at had them on hand, so it meant I could try something new (and bring something in if I didn't like them).  While I can't speak to how great they'll perform in the heat, I was very impressed with audio and build quality.

They're fine in the heat. I ran the VUE demo tour in 2012 and they were taking full sun on the amp modules in the VUE parking lot, 100 degrees plus, and metered maybe 150 degrees on the surface of the amp modules.   No prob.

They sound fantastic.  Pair with the 28 sub and you have a punchy warm setup.

[Lee Buckalew]

Also, not into the sound of Funktion One.  These are not going to be used by DJs or in night clubs.

I would have to agree here. 

I have to give a plus to Vue and Fulcrum as others have mentioned and would also suggest the Martin CDD LIVE 12 or 15 if you have a chance to give them a listen.  I prefer the 12 if it will be used with a sub.

Lee

[Helge A Bentsen]

I ran a test with a Vue H12 VS a Danley SH50.

The SH50 walked all over it in terms of SQ. I went with the SH50s after that test.

[Doug Fowler]

I ran a test with a Vue H12 VS a Danley SH50.

The SH50 walked all over it in terms of SQ. I went with the SH50s after that test.

Yes. The H12 and H15 are completely different. I'll guess you did not  like what H12 does in HF?

[Jason Raboin]

We use Fulcrum Acoustic FA22AC.  They meet all your requirements. They're fantastic.  I haven't heard anything better.

[eric lenasbunt]

We use Fulcrum Acoustic FA22AC.  They meet all your requirements. They're fantastic.  I haven't heard anything better.

I would definitely back that up. The FA22AC is the best sounding high output speakers that have graced my ears. Absolutely amazing.

I have no experience with Vue and haven't seen any down hear in swamp land.

The FA22AC would be my first choice for a premium box with your specs.


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[Peter Morris]

Yes. The H12 and H15 are completely different. I'll guess you did not  like what H12 does in HF?

Hi Doug,

From the specifications both seem to be using the same HF driver.  I'm not sure that was always the case (?)

FWIW the VUE H15 sounded excellent, very impressed, but the price was very steep all things considered in my part of the world.

[Doug Fowler]

Hi Doug,

From the specifications both seem to be using the same HF driver.  I'm not sure that was always the case (?)

FWIW the VUE H15 sounded excellent, very impressed, but the price was very steep all things considered in my part of the world.

My experience is they are somehow voiced differently.

[Helge A Bentsen]

Yes. The H12 and H15 are completely different. I'll guess you did not  like what H12 does in HF?

Yes, the HF was an issue.
It's the same with all the 12" Vue speakers I've mixed on, they seem to have a strange voicing.

[Lee Buckalew]

FWIW the VUE H15 sounded excellent, very impressed, but the price was very steep all things considered in my part of the world.

Not just in your part of the world. 

Lee

[Chris White]

Ryan, we are doing a demo of the al-12 at Chandler Center for The Arts on 4/21 and will have h-class boxes there.


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[Aisle 6]

My experience is they are somehow voiced differently.

They may have a slightly shifted crossover point given the different LF driver.

[John Rutirasiri]

Internally bi-amped via Powersoft amp modules--should be nearly bulletproof.

Many folks do not realize that the Powersoft plate amps for OEM powered speaker application is different in construction and reliability than their rack touring amps.
In the last two years I've had 3 of those plate amps go kaput.

I wouldn't call them bulletproof.

John R.

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