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[Brad Harris]

On a S6L this weekend, and noticing something annoying ...


Stereo Input channel, built in compressor engaged.


The Key to the compressor is only triggered by the left side. Is this is bug, or am I doing something wrong?




BRad

[Roland Clarke]

On a S6L this weekend, and noticing something annoying ...


Stereo Input channel, built in compressor engaged.


The Key to the compressor is only triggered by the left side. Is this is bug, or am I doing something wrong?




BRad

Are you forced to use the key?  If not the detector should be running both channels; also, are you sure that it is physically only detecting from left input?

Of course you can use a buss compressor or another plugin after the channel strip or are you saying all plugins follow the same protocol.  Back in the day of linked mono compressors the detection circuit would be the left channel and the second channel would slave.

[Mac Kerr]

Back in the day of linked mono compressors the detection circuit would be the left channel and the second channel would slave.

Except the dbx165 which had a closely matched pair of VCAs in every device and the audio from the second device of a stereo pair was routed through the second VCA in the first unit.

Mac

[Brad Harris]

Are you forced to use the key?  If not the detector should be running both channels; also, are you sure that it is physically only detecting from left input?

Key is set to Self (default). How else do you tell the compressor to compress?

If you unplug the signal from the left side, the compressor is unresponsive.

Of course you can use a buss compressor or another plugin after the channel strip or are you saying all plugins follow the same protocol.  Back in the day of linked mono compressors the detection circuit would be the left channel and the second channel would slave.

Defeats the whole purpose of a built in compressor ..... Were in 2017, not 1987 ....

Can't say about the rest of the architecture of the console, but I would hope if you have a stereo In/Out that anything you apply ("built in" or plugin) would affect the whole channel in an equal (or ish for "Drawmer" styled compression) fashion.

BRad

[Brad Harris]

Played around a bit this morning before we hit more SC


It meters off the Left channel, but affects both, and can be used on a Right only signal


BRad

[Roland Clarke]

Except the dbx165 which had a closely matched pair of VCAs in every device and the audio from the second device of a stereo pair was routed through the second VCA in the first unit.

Mac

A very strange beast!  I was never a fan of them, was an ok compressor, but expensive and not very universal.  Certainly not the legend the dbx160 was.

[Mac Kerr]

A very strange beast!  I was never a fan of them, was an ok compressor, but expensive and not very universal.  Certainly not the legend the dbx160 was.

I think it was the best compressor I've ever used. Expensive, yes, but better sounding than anything else I had access to at the time, and that included dbx160s. The 160 became ubiquitous because it was inexpensive and sounded good.

Mac

[Roland Clarke]

I think it was the best compressor I've ever used. Expensive, yes, but better sounding than anything else I had access to at the time, and that included dbx160s. The 160 became ubiquitous because it was inexpensive and sounded good.

Mac

Where I wouldn't describe the dbx160 as high quality, it very definitely has a sound that in my personal opinion is extremely usable.  For me the 165 was reasonable transparent, but could "chatter" on the detector side with sources it didn't like.  I prefer for less audible compression the continuous gentle sloping style like the tla100 from summit. 

Interesting how we all have differing pov on the same piece of kit.  Of course in this day and age, seamless, artifact free compression is easy with the plethora of good digital devices.

[Ryan O John]

Bug logged! glad it's just the metering..!

Played around a bit this morning before we hit more SC


It meters off the Left channel, but affects both, and can be used on a Right only signal


BRad

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