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Scott Holtzman

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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2017, 12:59:21 AM »

John's stuff is more accurately described as "custom built" than "DIY".


Frankly the workmanship is a sight to behold.  We are finishing them for the upcoming spring season and all that have seen them have been awestruck at the workmanship.



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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2017, 04:16:12 AM »

Maybe some words about "custom" instead of "diy" in the sales pitch, explaining that the look was trying to get away from "the rock concert" look.  If you are selling into a wedding market, say it is a "look brides prefer"
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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2017, 08:49:39 AM »


Frankly the workmanship is a sight to behold.  We are finishing them for the upcoming spring season and all that have seen them have been awestruck at the workmanship.

I couldn't figure out why I was blushing while having my morning coffee, then I get caught up on this thread.

My thanks to you and Rick on the kind words.

Like Ivan and others, I built my own loudspeakers, having started in high school with hifi cabinets.  When I started doing live sound for the band I've literally been married to for over thirty years, I jumped in and tried my hand at pro audio loudspeakers.

Then this guy at a NASA research subcontractor put an ad in the local paper for someone interested in building cabinets.

Also put in a year at R&R Cases in their OEM speaker cabinet division.

I've also built cabinets for Jeff at JTR and Mark at Seaton Sound.

Overall, built hundreds of cabinets and subassemblies.

Learned a lot more than just how to build pro audio loudspeaker cabinets.  Also learned that there's a ton more still to learn.

The world needs DIY folks, whether or not you ever make money at it or not.

Best regards,

John

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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2017, 09:52:35 AM »

The world needs DIY folks, whether or not you ever make money at it or not.

Definitely.  If people didn't DIY, there wouldn't be any commercially available products.  Every company was essentially DIY at some point.


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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2017, 11:48:51 AM »

No prototype ever survives its first contact with reality.

I have nothing against someone using diy for their own use, but that is different from being a provider for someone else.

Before the company turns the diy design into a product, they have probably gone through a dozen iterations. Most of them destroyed more pa's in one design cycle than most diy-ers will own in a lifetime.

Hell, I won't form a solid opinion on a commercial product until I have a couple of dozen shows under my belt with it.

Even the folks whose diy plans I respect have gone through an extensive design cycle before releasing the design into the wild.

The ones I don't, release a plan and expect others to do the prototyping.

The worst, think a speaker box is just to hold the drivers.

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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2017, 12:33:22 PM »



The worst, think a speaker box is just to hold the drivers.


YES.  There is a lot more to it than simply "sticking speakers in a box".

Sure, they will all "make sound", but the quality of that sound is what makes them different.
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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2017, 01:53:09 PM »

YES.  There is a lot more to it than simply "sticking speakers in a box".

Sure, they will all "make sound", but the quality of that sound is what makes them different.
"sticking speakers in a box"  ;D ;D

Back in the 60's (50s?) my first ohmbrew speakers were some 10" Lafayette electronics drivers with tiny alnico magnets. I used the cardboard boxes that the drivers came in for my first baffles. Ran the 10"ers full range in stereo. Sounded better than what I had before, an old (very old) tube radio the size of a small refrigerator.

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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2017, 02:03:31 PM »

The world needs DIY folks, whether or not you ever make money at it or not.

Hear! Hear!
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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2017, 05:19:29 PM »

"sticking speakers in a box"  ;D ;D

Back in the 60's (50s?) my first ohmbrew speakers were some 10" Lafayette electronics drivers with tiny alnico magnets. I used the cardboard boxes that the drivers came in for my first baffles. Ran the 10"ers full range in stereo. Sounded better than what I had before, an old (very old) tube radio the size of a small refrigerator.

JR
My first "install" was a pair of 12" whizzer cone woofers that I mounted in the cardboard boxes they came in-wrapped with duct tape and put in the rafters of the gift shop I worked in.

At least it burnt down before anybody got hurt :)

I once bought some JBLE130s from a guy who built some cabinets REAL quick.

He cut the baffle holes in a piece of wood and nailed that to drawers that he took out of his dresser.

He said he needed something "quick"
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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2017, 06:17:14 PM »

My first "install" was a pair of 12" whizzer cone woofers that I mounted in the cardboard boxes they came in-wrapped with duct tape and put in the rafters of the gift shop I worked in.

At least it burnt down before anybody got hurt :)

I once bought some JBLE130s from a guy who built some cabinets REAL quick.

He cut the baffle holes in a piece of wood and nailed that to drawers that he took out of his dresser.

He said he needed something "quick"
Coincidentally I just put an 8" coaxial driver into an old AR4AX cabinet I had only one of (other one was stolen) to make the center vocal channel for my living room surround system. Wasn't worth the effort to rebuild the crossover, find a good tweeter, and replace the woofer surround... Full range Coax driver works good enough on TV/movie vocals to keep me happy...

JR
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Re: "Proving" a DIY system
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