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Author Topic: Some companies just want to get big.  (Read 19870 times)

Cailen Waddell

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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2017, 04:09:46 PM »

Forget the PA, look at the roof.

This -  the roof is deadly. 


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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2017, 04:12:18 PM »

I have one customer (and a few ex-customers) that prefer a rig that looks that way.  My current rig is "too small" and "doesn't look powerful enough" for these customers even though I have more than quadrupled the wattage that my EV Xi rig had.

The Xi was effecient, and when flown or stacked correctly, there wasn't much comb filtering, but I don't miss moving and stacking 250 lb. boxes 3 and 4 high!
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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2017, 04:20:53 PM »

My first post was referring to the likelihood of comb filtering.
At this level of density maybe it should be referred to as brush filtering.
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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2017, 04:40:14 PM »

If they had just doubled the number of tops and subs, they would've been OK.
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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2017, 04:49:38 PM »

This -  the roof is deadly. 


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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2017, 04:53:24 PM »

Forget the PA, look at the roof.

That was pretty obvious. Kinda went without saying
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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2017, 10:22:33 AM »

As much as we're all sitting here, "How can this un-named company feel OK doing this," part of the onus is on the client to be specific as to their expectations. Now, 85% chance they just cared about budget and these folks were the lowest price, but we all know and understand that any legitimate event is going to have standards in their RFP as to types and coverage of PA, quality and safety of structures; e.g. "No Genie-style roofs" and so on.

In other words, the event probably doesn't give a damn, and that's the sad part of this situation. S'why you (an event) hire a production manager that "gets it."

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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2017, 11:01:27 AM »

As much as we're all sitting here, "How can this un-named company feel OK doing this," part of the onus is on the client to be specific as to their expectations. Now, 85% chance they just cared about budget
ACTUALLY-I have done gigs in which the promoters MOST IMPORTANT concern was the NUMBER OF CABINETS USED.

Not the quality-type-he insisted on NUMBERS.

This was a promoter that I had worked with many times at the same venue-doing the same type music etc with a much smaller rig and it was fine.

So I actually took out dummy empty, PA cabinets (actually twice as many as I normally used).

He was happy because it "looked louder".

I did plug cables into them so they looked like they were being used.

I did charge more :)

I have a video of it somewhere I need to find.

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Re: Some companies just want to get big.
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2017, 11:59:50 AM »

ACTUALLY-I have done gigs in which the promoters MOST IMPORTANT concern was the NUMBER OF CABINETS USED.

Not the quality-type-he insisted on NUMBERS.

This was a promoter that I had worked with many times at the same venue-doing the same type music etc with a much smaller rig and it was fine.

So I actually took out dummy empty, PA cabinets (actually twice as many as I normally used).

He was happy because it "looked louder".


I did plug cables into them so they looked like they were being used.

I did charge more :)

I have a video of it somewhere I need to find.

I have also brought out extra cabs (2 over 2) per side only to use 1 over 1 per side.
It worked fine and no one could tell that there were unused cabs.

Hey, if the promoter wants to pay for "stuff" why not give him what he wants?
He's writing the check.
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Re: Some companies just want to get SUED!
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2017, 02:48:25 PM »

Fixed your subject line   :) :)
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Re: Some companies just want to get SUED!
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