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Adam Dumbacher

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DAS Audio Action Series
« on: December 06, 2016, 09:04:39 pm »

Has anyone used the DAS Audio Action series?  I am specifically interested in the M12 passive wedge.
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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2016, 10:53:36 pm »

Interested in it for what application?  For your home stereo or a touring act?

You need to ask specific question if you wanted anything other than snark.



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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2016, 12:24:57 am »

Interested in it for what application?  For your home stereo or a touring act?

You need to ask specific question if you wanted anything other than snark.

I am looking for an upgrade from Mackie 450s for my regional company.  We do everything from local bar gigs to festivals with B level acts.  Passive would be my preferred option.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2016, 01:40:55 am »

I am looking for an upgrade from Mackie 450s for my regional company.  We do everything from local bar gigs to festivals with B level acts.  Passive would be my preferred option.

No direct experience with the M12 but I was pleasantly surprised by the DAS Aero 12 vertical array.  I'm not sure what I expected but it didn't suck.  It's not a Nexo Geo S12 but it doesn't have the Nexo price tag, either.

I think you need to find a dealer with a decent return policy and order one.  If you don't like it, return it.  I see they're special order at "Navigation Aid"... If you didn't find it to meet you needs you can sell it, even if you had to take a $100 loss that $100 saved you from buying a half dozen (or more) speakers you'd ultimately regret buying.  Likewise don't think twice about spending $100 or so to travel to audition items for a major purchase.  The "due diligence" is part of the total cost of ownership.  Better to spend a little up front than later wish you'd not spent thousands.
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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2016, 05:14:25 am »

Has anyone used the DAS Audio Action series?  I am specifically interested in the M12 passive wedge.

The Action M12 is a good little wedge. You will find its build quality is way above where the price point would suggest - it shares many hardware components and the same quality of woodwork as the premium touring Road series of monitors.

The drivers are pretty decent and extremely affordable to replace if the need arises. There are protection fuses on the crossover.

I have 8 x Passive Action M12s in hire stock (along with Turbo TXD M12s and JBL MRX512M wedges at an price equivalent level to these)

To cut a long story short, the Action M12s blow the TXDs and MRXs out of the water.

We have just sold a load of them into a venue who have replaced D&B Max15s with them. Louder, cleaner, clearer and drop lower than the Max 15. The venue couldn't beliieve that they were able to sell their Max15s and upgrade significantly in performance and end up with money in their pockets as well!

Like any passive wedge, I would recommend running them with DSP. Set a high pass filter to 65Hz, a (very) little corrective EQ and a well set limiter and they are really quite astonishing.

We do admittedly drive ours with Powersoft X4s as we have standardised on these amps in our hire stock. We did used to run them on Crown XTi 2002 but found they were very happy on the extra current of the XTi4002. And yes, voiced properly and using the advanced limiter settings on the Powersoft X4s (we did also use Linea Reasearch 44M10s) they really come to life in a way that you just would not expect for a box at this price point.

As an experiment I put out a stage full of them for a well known international touring act as I was that confident in their performance. They stated that it was the best on stage sound they had ever had!

Not bad for a wedge that retails here in the UK for less than 450.

Give them a demo, you will find that they are a whole different league to the Mackies that you were using before.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2016, 05:19:32 am »

No direct experience with the M12 but I was pleasantly surprised by the DAS Aero 12 vertical array.  I'm not sure what I expected but it didn't suck.  It's not a Nexo Geo S12 but it doesn't have the Nexo price tag, either.

Aero 12 wasn't bad but really suffered for no presets for array compensation. Many people ran them without an external system processor and the sound quality (never bad) was not as polished as it could have been.

The new Aero20 is leagues ahead of the old Aero12 (like for like replacement) Louder, cleaner, clearer, FIR filtered, built in array compensation and with a greatly improved rigging system. I suspect you would be harder pushed to choose between Geo and Aero20.
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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2016, 11:39:55 am »

Has anyone used the DAS Audio Action series?  I am specifically interested in the M12 passive wedge.

Very happy with my Action 8As. Wood cabs, not made in China, excellent build quality. Don't go as loud as my QSC K10s, but they sound nicer.
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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2016, 03:05:34 pm »

Alright thanks everyone. I have ordered two boxes to test out. I'm looking forward to using them
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2016, 01:50:11 pm »

Alright thanks everyone. I have ordered two boxes to test out. I'm looking forward to using them

Let us know how you get on please :-)
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2016, 05:06:49 pm »

I got them this afternoon and checked them out in the shop. For no processing dialed in, I'm very impressed for the price. I'm going to spend some more time working with them later this week
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2016, 05:23:10 am »

I got them this afternoon and checked them out in the shop. For no processing dialed in, I'm very impressed for the price. I'm going to spend some more time working with them later this week

How did you get on?
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2016, 11:22:57 am »

I'm very pleased with them. I'm planning to buy more pretty soon. Thanks for everyone's help.

Adam
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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2016, 11:33:29 am »

I'm very pleased with them. I'm planning to buy more pretty soon. Thanks for everyone's help.

Adam

Hey, Adam.

Can you elaborate a bit?  What have you been using and how are the DAS better?  If you had any other speakers you auditioned can you offer your impressions on the differences with the DAS?

Not looking for a complete review with comparison chart but tell us why/how the DAS tripped your chequebook trigger...
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2017, 11:08:50 am »

Any further updates? I am interested in purchasing 5 of these for a church.


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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2017, 11:14:27 am »

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Re: DAS Audio Action Series
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2017, 06:22:49 pm »

I've been very pleased with them. As of now, I only have a pair but I'm planning to add 6 more by the end of the month.
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 06:57:26 am »

I've been very pleased with them. As of now, I only have a pair but I'm planning to add 6 more by the end of the month.

Well that''s about as promising a review as you get - the man is buying more!
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2017, 12:02:29 pm »

I used to have a pair of DAS RF12 tops, which I really liked until they got dropped (not by me) and the magnet shifted on the bass driver. That was annoying.
Email the manufacturer and ask if they've got any EQ presets. They sent some across for me that got my cabs sounding really good, and might have something on-file for you.

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2017, 08:38:53 am »

There are indeed some presets for M12s. However, all processors are different and apply EQ and filters in different ways. As such, those settings would be different from processor to processor. I can help you out if you are using DAS' own processors or XTA or Linea Research, which is what I have compiled settings for. I will be doing some for Powersoft X4s soon.
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