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Jamin Lynch

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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2016, 12:38:25 pm »

In theater it's very important to have the correct Kelvin lighting temperature.

If going LED, make sure the fixtures are capable for warm white at 2800-3500 Kelvin 

Take a look at the Chauvet LED ellipsoidal.  Most are 1 channel.

https://www.chauvetprofessional.com/products/category/ellipsoidals/
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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2016, 01:13:48 pm »

+1 on Mark's post.  We replaced the conventional lighting at a casino with LED EFX and stage lighting.  They estimated the install would pay for itself in a year and a half is reduced air conditioning, labor cost, and lamp replacement costs. 
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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2016, 01:31:04 pm »

I found for the Source Four Leko an LED replacement at a cost of 10 items for 6600. 

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Please see attached estimate for the ETC S4WRD's. 
Stock on this item at this moment is (12) possible lead time for more.

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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2016, 06:36:32 pm »

I found for the Source Four Leko an LED replacement at a cost of 10 items for 6600. 

Good Day,

Please see attached estimate for the ETC S4WRD's.
Stock on this item at this moment is (12) possible lead time for more.

Hope this was helpful!
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Was this before or after they dealt with the liquid cooling leaking from the light pipe?

Regardless - the conventional dimming on the s4wrd is meh at best.  The dmx dimming is ok.

Compare one to a conventional s4.  The color isn't even close.

I'm not saying it's a bad product.  It's great for the right places.  I don't think a hs black box is that place. 


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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2016, 06:46:54 pm »

Have you stated a budget? It's hard to recommend anything without an idea of the target.
That being said we have had great success installing the Chauvet Ovation line. They are $1100-1300 ish per fixture, so that's why budget idea is important
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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2016, 06:58:59 pm »

I found for the Source Four Leko an LED replacement at a cost of 10 items for 6600. 

Good Day,

Please see attached estimate for the ETC S4WRD's.
Stock on this item at this moment is (12) possible lead time for more.

Hope this was helpful!
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Ashley Jones
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ashley@stagelightingstore.com
Also, he has S4 JR, so the 4WRD's aren't an option. 
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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2016, 12:23:36 am »

You will find most lights under $500 will not dim in a smooth way akin to tungsten halogen theatrical fixtures. Depending on how much this bothers you, it may help you decide what you want to do. 

Regardless audition the dimming.  Some better fixtures have settings to smooth their dimming but then are unable to effectively strobe.   Again - this is something you have to decide if you can live with.

And this is something that you will really need to consider.  Not only will the cheaper lights struggle to dim in a way that can replicate a conventional light, some can't dim well at all!  The one advantage you have with subtractive color mixing (gels or CMY wheels) is that you can always go darker.  Yes, the color temp will change as you dim a halogen unit, but otherwise the color itself will remain consistent.  This is not always so with LED lights.  Say for instance you mix a color that consists of 80% red and 10% blue...  As you pull the master dimmer channel down, there becomes a point where your blue has already reached zero while the red is a nonzero value, thus changing the color you're actually producing.  This is less of an issue with the pricier fixtures that use higher-bit color mixing, but very noticeable on cheaper lights, especially when running cues with 5, 10, 30 second fades. 

Have you stated a budget? It's hard to recommend anything without an idea of the target.
That being said we have had great success installing the Chauvet Ovation line. They are $1100-1300 ish per fixture, so that's why budget idea is important

I don't think so, but given that the COLORado Series seems to be a bit much, the Ovation Series would probably be a non-starter.  Cameron, I of course don't know your specific situation, but what might help increase your budget would be to discuss the points Mark and Don bring up about the decrease in cooling, power, and maintenance costs when comparing LED lights to the conventional ones with the powers at be.   
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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2016, 09:02:05 pm »

I doubt that the OP swapping out PARs for LEDs one or two at a time will have any meaningful impact on power, cooling, or maintenance costs for quite a while. Certainly there will be at some point, and that should be made clear to the powers that be as you suggest.
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Re: HS Theater Looking into LED Lights. Suggestions?
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