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Will Cash

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Danley SH95 over TH118?
« on: August 01, 2016, 12:21:46 pm »

Would a single pair of SH95's be heard over a single pair of TH118s sufficiently?
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2016, 12:54:44 pm »

Would a single pair of SH95's be heard over a single pair of TH118s sufficiently?
That is a really "open ended" question.

Are you talking about system balance?

If so, what type of music, what sort of space-inside/outside etc.

And why the choice of the SH95?  Just curious.  There may be better options
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2016, 12:58:29 pm »

Would a single pair of SH95's be heard over a single pair of TH118s sufficiently?

Is that the same as a single over a single?
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2016, 01:12:23 pm »

Is that the same as a single over a single?

Yes, single over single.

SH95 because I see a great deal on a powered pair.

Spaces will vary - semi-mobile setup for live avant garde, electronic, DJ, and band applications...
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2016, 01:31:33 pm »

Yes, single over single.

SH95 because I see a great deal on a powered pair.

Spaces will vary - semi-mobile setup for live avant garde, electronic, DJ, and band applications...
That's not a particularly loud box.  It will work fine for all kinds of music...up to a certain size room.  How big is your room?

If you do look seriously at these, make sure they come with pole sockets.  Sticking this on top of the TH118 isn't going to be a good deployment.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2016, 01:33:31 pm »

How loud do you want it? The fact that you're looking at TH118 implies that you want some serious output. I would look at the SM80 to go over TH118's especially for portable situations.

If the SH95 is 'loud enough' then you could probably go with a smaller sub. I believe a member was selling a pair of TH112's for a really good deal not too long ago


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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2016, 01:56:44 pm »

It seems the standard set up is two TH118s to an SM80.  The issue here is the mid bass gap.  If you bump up the eq on the SH95 to get down to 150Hz or so, when you max out there you are giving up output in the speakers normal operating range.  Which is roughly equivalent to the SM80 above 350.  If you run the crossover to the TH118 higher to compensate you now have a physical alignment issue as you'll want them close together as well as aligned in the DSP.  I still think you'd get uneven response in the midbass from the different patterns although the SH95 may not maintain pattern control pushed that low.
For bass heavy music within the rig's volume constraints it might work but there are probably better options.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2016, 06:33:46 pm »

Danley's description is "a great downfill or under balcony speaker". That would cross that box off my list as a main speaker.
SM80 seems a much better choice and it's 8 db louder.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2016, 06:47:56 pm »

SH95's sound great, but don't have much output.  I'd pass and look for something louder.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2016, 07:20:59 pm »



SH95 because I see a great deal on a powered pair.


There is a saying  "The wrong piece of gear at a great price is still the wrong piece of gear"

Don't just buy something because you get a great deal.

The SH95 is a great box, but I would not suggest it based on what you say your intended usage is.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2016, 09:11:44 pm »

SH95's sound great, but don't have much output.  I'd pass and look for something louder.

SH96, now THERE'S a box...
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2016, 09:26:53 pm »

SH96, with SH95 under-hung.  Or the -HO versions of each. 
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 06:37:01 am »

SH96, with SH95 under-hung.  Or the -HO versions of each.
But a bit of overkill for a single TH118
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2016, 09:43:26 pm »

But a bit of overkill for a single TH118

Not at all! 4x15" in a giant horn, just right...
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 09:32:16 am »

Not at all! 4x15" in a giant horn, just right...

At least 2x Th-118 would be necessary to keep up with SH96-HO.  More for dance music; 4x is just right for that application.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2016, 09:33:53 am »

I so 3x TH118 on SH96, never felt it was lacking, good height to


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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 11:27:44 am »

We've gotta start with a single pair of subs due to budget constraints. I went with a pair of RCF 4PRo 6001a for our initial tops. You guys have been mega helpful in all of my threads :)
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 11:38:41 am »

At least 2x Th-118 would be necessary to keep up with SH96-HO.  More for dance music; 4x is just right for that application.
One thing that a lot of people don't get is, it is NOT the number of subs needed to keep up with a particular top box.

But RATHER-how many subs are needed for the job, and then looking to see if the top will keep up.

You don't HAVE to run loudspeakers at full output capability-despite what some people think.

If you turn it down it will be cleaner.

Sometimes a box like the SH96 is choosen not because of the output capability, but rather for the pattern control-as in many arenas that it is installed in
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 12:40:23 pm »

One thing that a lot of people don't get is, it is NOT the number of subs needed to keep up with a particular top box.

But RATHER-how many subs are needed for the job, and then looking to see if the top will keep up.

You don't HAVE to run loudspeakers at full output capability-despite what some people think.

If you turn it down it will be cleaner.

Sometimes a box like the SH96 is choosen not because of the output capability, but rather for the pattern control-as in many arenas that it is installed in

It is logic like that will not convince too many. :)
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 10:03:49 pm »

Also to note I was totally kidding. The sh96 is big and really a long throw type of box. I don't think it sounds great right in front, but as you back up, man it sings...
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 01:14:36 am »

Also to note I was totally kidding. The sh96 is big and really a long throw type of box. I don't think it sounds great right in front, but as you back up, man it sings...

It sounds great in front too. Maybe you were getting too much monitor spill. Big? Not for the output.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2016, 09:18:19 pm »

It sounds great in front too. Maybe you were getting too much monitor spill. Big? Not for the output.

Well, just sounded a little harsh up close, but that's likely because it was loud. I still have two demo units in the shop I need to play with more. They do throw for days, pretty sure I could cover the other side of downtown of I got them up high enough....

And for the output and coverage they are really not much worse than an 850 or X array box and put out way more.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2016, 09:14:46 am »

Well, just sounded a little harsh up close, but that's likely because it was loud. I still have two demo units in the shop I need to play with more. They do throw for days, pretty sure I could cover the other side of downtown of I got them up high enough....

And for the output and coverage they are really not much worse than an 850 or X array box and put out way more.
All speakers will sound harsh-once the level get to loud for your ears.

The ear can only take a certain amount of level before it starts to "shut down" and try to protect itself.

This manifests  (sounds like) harsh sound. 

Around 3KHz ish is the first to stick out.  That is where our hearing mechanism is the most sensitive.

I have experience many cases in which I SWORE the HF drivers were shredded, but when the level at my ears was reduced-by moving further away, they sounded fine.
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Re: Danley SH95 over TH118?
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2016, 09:33:58 pm »

Also to note I was totally kidding. The sh96 is big and really a long throw type of box. I don't think it sounds great right in front, but as you back up, man it sings...

the (phone?) mic in this video is about 4m from sh96ho speakers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poPB379vutQ
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