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Tim Halligan

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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2016, 12:28:21 PM »

Never underestimate the power of stupid.

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Tim
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Ivan Beaver

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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2016, 12:37:22 PM »

Never underestimate the power of stupid.

Cheers,
Tim
The problem is that very often "stupid" is in a position to spends lots of other peoples money on a bad decision-based on their own desires to have a "toy" to play with, rather than a useful tool to do the job.
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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2016, 12:44:45 PM »

The problem is that very often "stupid" is in a position to spends lots of other peoples money on a bad decision-based on their own desires to have a "toy" to play with, rather than a useful tool to do the job.
Unfortunately, so very true.
Maybe on the 3rd purchase, they'll "get it"  - or not.

Once had someone come up to me and say "Why are the vocals so clear ? That can't be right."
This was a pop/rock band, not grunge or some other mumbled shit.

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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2016, 01:11:31 PM »

The problem is that very often "stupid" is in a position to spends lots of other peoples money on a bad decision-based on their own desires to have a "toy" to play with, rather than a useful tool to do the job.
Amen.
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Ivan Beaver

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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2016, 01:15:23 PM »

Unfortunately, so very true.
Maybe on the 3rd purchase, they'll "get it"  - or not.

Once had someone come up to me and say "Why are the vocals so clear ? That can't be right."
This was a pop/rock band, not grunge or some other mumbled shit.

Chris.
I did a show in a hardcore type club.  Everybody was amazed at how good it sounded and how much sound I got out of the "small" PA I brought.

But the house guy said "Well it sounded nice-but it didn't have the ice pick in the forehead that makes your eyeballs hurt"

I took that as a complement :)  but it wasn't meant that way.
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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2016, 01:16:08 PM »

I once had a person tell me during a demo that he thought it was too clean.
"It will need more distortion to cut through the stage noise."
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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2016, 01:29:35 PM »

I once had a person tell me during a demo that he thought it was too clean.
"It will need more distortion to cut through the stage noise."
Maybe that needs to be a marketing tag for some companies.

"We are more distorted than brand X"

YEAH-that should attract lots of buyers----------
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Scott Helmke

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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2016, 01:30:26 PM »

I once had a person tell me during a demo that he thought it was too clean.
"It will need more distortion to cut through the stage noise."

Near as I can figure, the whole fight over "mic pres" is how much and what kind of distortion they impart on the source.
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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2016, 01:53:19 PM »

Yeah-I remember "back in the day", when I got my first DN360 and thinking "WOW, now I don't have to move the faders as far to get results.  That is a good thing"

I guess I was wrong--------  Maybe things are different these days  ::)

OH well.  I guess you "learn" something every day
This reminds me of a simple little Mackie mixer I used to do quite a bit of corporate work on.  The built-in 7-band graphic did so much with the first 3/16" of slider travel then not much after that for the rest of its range.
-Maybe that type of response was what the guy is talking about?   Too much control upon initial movement then wasted travel for the remainder of it's range!
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Re: Never heard this before-----
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2016, 01:57:22 PM »

Maybe that needs to be a marketing tag for some companies.

"We are more distorted than brand X"

YEAH-that should attract lots of buyers----------

I did a political campaign in ukraine some years back.  I had a decent sized d&b rig.  For the first several events i kept getting complaints from the campaign that it wasn't loud enough but it was so loud i started setting up FOH BEHIND the stacks just to get out of the pain zone.  Still they were telling me it wasn't loud enough.

Finally i figured it out.  They had never heard a PA that was capable of 120 db without distortion.  So since it wasn't distorting, they thought it wasn't loud.  I began to introduce a little clipping at the Mic Pre just to 'dirty up' the sound a bit.  Then they wanted me to turn it down because it was too loud.  :)
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Re: Never heard this before-----
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