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John Chiara

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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2016, 12:15:15 am »

Get the sub and the iNuke, add a Behringer DCX2496, and don't bother plugging in the B10s.  For a "teen dance party", it should be fine.  If you want to live on the bleeding edge, you could keep the B10s and run effectively a three way system with low bass on the Yorkville, mid bass on the B10s, and L1s.

But... You'll get damned little respect hereabouts, Bose is hated by most sound professionals, and many regard everything Behringer make as utter junk, though now they have three year warranty and the digital products are actually not bad in absolute terms and very good at their price point, the hate is diminishing a bit.  So a Bose/Behringer rig won't get much love from the pros, even though in context it'll be just fine.

Id get a sub and a Crest Prolite DSP amp with Maxxbass.
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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2016, 01:28:46 am »

The Bose sticks aren't well regarded in the professional audio world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sibKEEBlfWs
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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2016, 01:53:43 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sibKEEBlfWs


Oh look, it's an acoustic set for a has been band in a coffee shop with 12 people staged in front of the camera for a manufacturer's promo.   ::)
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John Rutirasiri

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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2016, 02:22:35 am »

Be fair folks, they do have their place!  These are my "looks first, who cares about the sound" Lincoln Park (Chicago) speakers for the wealthy who throw cocktail parties but want their million dollar homes to be seen, not bulky loudspeakers.

There's actually a sound company in the Chicago burbs that only stock Bose and do quite well with them.

But getting back to the OP: those L1's are too delicate for dance music with 500 people.  I would invest in a pair of decent 12" or 15" 2-way powered speakers over subs (QSC, JBL, Yamaha, Alto...) and keep the Bose for corporate gigs and house warming parties.  They are expensive...you don't want to overstress them and crack the plastic.

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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2016, 07:30:13 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sibKEEBlfWs

A fine example of completely superfluous technology.

I once attended a Jorma Kaukonen "unplugged" concert at "the" local theater.  Their multi-million dollar sound system (1200 capacity room) sounded so bad as to be unlistenable for 90% of the seats.

The only good seats were the last row under the balcony overhang where the sound from the sophisticated line array was occluded but there was still direct, unamplified sound from the thrust stage.

The "coffeehouse" video made me think again of playing to hundreds of people on the street with all the attendant ambient racket.  No tech needed, Bose or otherwise.  Even a string quartet completely un-amplified can drive you out of the typical coffeehouse setting if they want to kick it.

We have (and have had) fine tech and wonderful electric instruments, but it has never made the music better, only louder. 

If you can't play without the tech, nothing suffices.

Hrrrumpphhh.

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I forgot that this thread started with DJ'ing and has nothing to do with music...
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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2016, 04:46:55 pm »

Andy - welcome to the forums, and stick around, as you will learn things.

As you're finding out, doing deep bass is hard for many of the L1 type speakers, both from Bose and the other similar competitor items. It's still hard to do with powered 1x12 speakers. A real sub should help, and if there's a way you can "try before you buy" this used sub and power amp, that may be worth it.

Even doing a 1 day rental could be money well spent if you find that the sub helps. What you may also find is that while your L1 system can work fine in some situations, it won't work everywhere. If you find that you're doing more of these teen parties with lots of low end, you may want to consider either getting a second system, or selling the Bose and moving to a 1x12 powered box over subs. You can start with 1 sub, and add another when you need more low end.

I started on these boards asking how I could improve the sound of my then JBL JRX115 speakers. I think some of the better responses included setting them on fire, leaving them out on the curb, or to be truly cruel, donating them to charity... I'm glad I stayed. And that the JRX115's are gone.
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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2016, 05:40:01 pm »


I started on these boards asking how I could improve the sound of my then JBL JRX115 speakers. I think some of the better responses included setting them on fire, leaving them out on the curb, or to be truly cruel, donating them to charity... I'm glad I stayed. And that the JRX115's are gone.

I recently met a new client to discuss replacing the JRX system installed at their wedding venue. She asked what she could do with the old speakers once we took them down. My advice was to set them in a pile on the adjacent train tracks and wait for the next freight train. She buckled over in laughter and bought the new system.
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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2016, 06:45:54 pm »


Oh look, it's an acoustic set for a has been band in a coffee shop with 12 people staged in front of the camera for a manufacturer's promo.   ::)

Two Bose L1 systems on this stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7JKYaYeuM
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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2016, 07:16:42 pm »

Two Bose L1 systems on this stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7JKYaYeuM

God Steve sound awful, sounds like he is straining to have a bowel movement.

Yeah, some people like you use that as monitors.  Usually old deaf rockers that don't give a shit about stage level. 

Certainly not germane to this conversation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyWVPHoFGJA

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Re: Recommendations on adding to Bose L1 II
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2016, 06:58:39 am »

I understand that not many people in professional circles like the Bose system, but I didn't expect such a disheartening discussion. Thank you for the input though.

Just in case you decide to come back, man the f*** up. There is nothing disheartening about telling you that you have the wrong tool for the job. As others have said, Bose has its place. Small three piece bands in coffeeshops with limited space and thats about it. Two 10's are not designed for chest thumping bass, and neither are the top modules. You need a large sub setup and a better top setup (something with more clarity and throw across all ranges)

Or better yet. Don't do the gig. Its not your forte. You wouldnt do a town festival with a Bose rig, right? No. Its not suited for that. You would either rent or subcontract a small trap rig or line array, whichever is better suited for the purpose.

Regardless of the dislike for Bose around here we tried to help you. The fellas on the Bose forum will probably say the same thing. Unless you have a bottomless wallet to dish out and purchase multiple sub modules. Even then its not the right tool for the job.
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