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Jonathan Johnson

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What's wrong with this ad?
« on: March 09, 2016, 12:23:58 am »

What is wrong with this ad?

Hint: something is out of place.

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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2016, 08:00:11 am »

Cable clamp on the inside?, or not used at all?
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 04:15:11 pm »

Cable clamp on the inside?, or not used at all?
Ya, but it's a composite box, so when the wire chafes through, it won't short to ground.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 06:26:27 pm »

The hot and neutral slots are backwards (relative to the ground pin) on the Arc Fault Receptacle, or the EGC pin is on top instead of bottom, relative to Hot.
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 07:47:20 pm »

It appears to be on newsprint yet gives a website and QR code.

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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 11:13:13 pm »

It appears to be on newsprint yet gives a website and QR code.

Haha.

The junction box in the background photo at the top of the page appears to be a style and form factor not used in the United States. This ad is for a store in the USA.

It's a bit hard to see in the picture I posted, but there appear to be integrated screw terminal lugs (instead of wire nuts) for connecting wires.

Nothing that would confuse a budding electrician or DIYer. I'll admit to being nitpicky.  ;)

The question I have is, in what region of the world was that stock photo made?
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 01:30:48 am »

Haha.

The junction box in the background photo at the top of the page appears to be a style and form factor not used in the United States. This ad is for a store in the USA.

It's a bit hard to see in the picture I posted, but there appear to be integrated screw terminal lugs (instead of wire nuts) for connecting wires.

Nothing that would confuse a budding electrician or DIYer. I'll admit to being nitpicky.  ;)

The question I have is, in what region of the world was that stock photo made?

Out of this world!
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2016, 04:08:22 pm »

The hot and neutral slots are backwards (relative to the ground pin) on the Arc Fault Receptacle, or the EGC pin is on top instead of bottom, relative to Hot.
actually that picture is correct. (it helps that there's an upside-down GFI in the wall next to my desk to compare to)

Price is just very wrong though for a basic 15A TR!
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2016, 04:15:02 pm »

actually that picture is correct. (it helps that there's an upside-down GFI in the wall next to my desk to compare to)

Price is just very wrong though for a basic 15A TR!

But it's not a basic 15A TR. It's an AFI.

And you just started an argument that will never end by saying it's upside down. ;)
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2016, 07:00:29 pm »

One hand for the pocket.
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2016, 07:10:47 pm »

One hand for the pocket.

Actually, you might be on to something there.  If that isn't two left hands doing the work, the right hand appears to be over on the left (hard to tell because the titles are over top of it).

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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2016, 07:14:31 pm »

Actually, you might be on to something there.  If that isn't two left hands doing the work, the right hand appears to be over on the left (hard to tell because the titles are over top of it).

GTD

That explains a lot of things I've found in home-owner electrical work.
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2016, 08:12:04 am »

But it's not a basic 15A TR. It's an AFI.

And you just started an argument that will never end by saying it's upside down. ;)

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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 11:42:49 am »

But it's not a basic 15A TR. It's an AFI.

And you just started an argument that will never end by saying it's upside down. ;)

Well, one of the earliest patents on outlets, by Philip F. Labre, clearly show the ground pin up.

The March 7, 1961 patent by Saul Slater also shows the grounding pin up.

Most of the other patents through the 50's and 60's by Hubbell, Westinghouse, etc, show the duplex on it's side, so there's no clear indication there which is up or down. So, given those two earlier references- I would say ground pin UP is correct.

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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2016, 12:34:33 pm »

But it's not a basic 15A TR. It's an AFI.

And you just started an argument that will never end by saying it's upside down. ;)
wow
staring at the pictures so hard I forgot to read!
-and thats a decent price for one of those then

The only argument is what you get from the customer after you've installed a receptacle that appears to them to be "upside down"
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2016, 12:39:18 pm »

I have no idea where I read this, but supposedly in California it is code that the ground pin is up, the reason being that for example your desk is against a wall with the outlet, and something like a paperclip slips off the back, if the ground pin is down the paperclip would short the hot and neutral, whereas if the ground pin was up it would simply drop to the side.  Shall we move on to the great TP quandry??? (insert smileys to taste.)
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2016, 12:51:59 pm »

I am just having fun here.  If you look at the printing on any outlet, it is clear that the ground pin needs to be up to read it.  Also most commercial installs and hospitals have the ground pin up.  I don't think it matters.  This is America. If it did it would be the law. (code)
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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2016, 01:15:37 pm »

Shall we move on to the great TP quandry??? (insert smileys to taste.)

No debate is needed. Per the original patent #459,516 application, toilet paper is hung with the paper folded over towards you.

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Re: What's wrong with this ad?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2016, 01:19:52 pm »

Frank, I did see that one, but it appeared to have something involved with 'protecting debris from getting into the grounding pin," so I thought maybe it was something OTHER then just the basic duplex outlet.

... amazing how many permutations (separate patents) can arise from such a basic (at least so considered now) object!

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