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Craig Hauber:
Things I haven't been able to find clear answers on and want to see what you all think before spending hours on the phone:

Consider a large institutional installation,

How do you hook a desktop PC to Dante primary, Dante Redundant and the internet simultaneously?
   -for playing back internet-derived audio streams to a CL-series system using Virtual soundcard

Similar question, how do you run Dante controller, CL Editor and iPad control aps and a web browser on the same network (Primary, Redundant, Control and Internet networks)
  -when you are in a large multi-building institution with it's own networking to serve internet.

And what would be a good router to handle all that :-)


-I don't ask much :-)

Mac Kerr:

--- Quote from: Craig Hauber on March 03, 2016, 10:51:34 PM ---How do you hook a desktop PC to Dante primary, Dante Redundant and the internet simultaneously?
   -for playing back internet-derived audio streams to a CL-series system using Virtual soundcard
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Generally, you don't. Generally you do not connect DVS to the secondary network, only the primary. While you can connect that network to the internet, I would avoid it if you can. The safe way is to use a second Ethernet port on your computer to access the internet.

--- Quote ---Similar question, how do you run Dante controller, CL Editor and iPad control aps and a web browser on the same network (Primary, Redundant, Control and Internet networks)
  -when you are in a large multi-building institution with it's own networking to serve internet.
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Again, Dante Controller, CL Editor, and iPad control app can be on the Dante Network, it would be safer to not have the Internet on that network. You can also achieve that separation with multiple computers.

Mac

David Sturzenbecher:
I spec all my large venue computers with three NICs. Amp/DSP/Wireless control on the Dante primary network, the second NIC for Dante secondary, and the third for Internet. I don't typically run DVS so the dual NIC connection is for Dante controller. All of the computers stay connected to the Internet for remote diagnostic purposes.


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Josh Millward:

--- Quote from: David Sturzenbecher on March 03, 2016, 11:56:26 PM ---I spec all my large venue computers with three NICs. Amp/DSP/Wireless control on the Dante primary network, the second NIC for Dante secondary, and the third for Internet. I don't typically run DVS so the dual NIC connection is for Dante controller. All of the computers stay connected to the Internet for remote diagnostic purposes.


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Yes, this is the typical way to implement such connectivity. You will need a computer with separate network interfaces. These can be a combination of WiFi and wired Ethernet connections. I traditionally do something very similar to what David mentioned above, but I'll typically separate the control network away from the audio transport network. Yes, they can work fine together and often will, but I prefer a dedicated network each for Control, Dante Primary, Dante Secondary, and finally Internet. Remote diagnostics is wonderful!

You will need to have different IP address ranges for each network. If you do not specify the IP addresses for the Dante Primary, they will AutoIP into the 169.254.xxx.yyy range. Dante Secondary will always fall into the 172.16 (17, 18).xxx.yyy. Often, your Internet IP address will be provided by the IT department via a DHCP server.

You will need to specify an IP address for your Control network if you are separating it from the Dante Primary network. It will need to be different from the others, so you can NOT allow it to AutoIP (otherwise it will also be in the 169.254.xxx.yyy range). I will often use the 10.xxx.yyy.zzz range for the control network, though there is no reason you can't use something in the 192.168.xxx.yyy range. Often the IT department will be using one of these ranges for their internal networks, so it will be provided by the DHCP server on your internet connection. Use the other one for your control network.

Cailen Waddell:
And there is no reason not to share Dante and Internet if you know what you are doing....


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