ProSoundWeb Community

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: VERY wet location needs subwoofers  (Read 5139 times)

Mitch Philips

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 60
VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« on: February 08, 2016, 03:05:31 PM »

Hi all, I am currently looking for replacement subwoofers in a location that gets very wet. This is for a fountain area and the subs would get direct water/mist exposure. The previous set of subs (4x Danley TH-118) were ordered to be built suitable this type of location, but after 3 years, they didn't hold up too well.

We're looking for replacement subs of any brand that can withstand these conditions. There are a few requisites and they are:

They CANNOT be flown
Preferably, not powered
They must be able to fit in an enclosure 45x25x30 inches.

Any ideas would be appreciated. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
Thanks
Logged

g'bye, Dick Rees

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7424
  • Duluth
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2016, 03:20:28 PM »

Hi all, I am currently looking for replacement subwoofers in a location that gets very wet.

Any ideas would be appreciated. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
Thanks

Yellow Sub(marine) Woofer
Logged
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

David Allred

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1904
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2016, 03:24:14 PM »

What failed the box or the driver?  Is there a way to provide positive air flow out of the area to limit the moisture coming in?
Logged

Keith Broughton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3667
  • Toronto
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 03:24:58 PM »

Yellow Sub(marine) Woofer
I've seen those before and they "leak"  ;D ;D
Logged
I don't care enough to be apathetic

Mitch Philips

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 60
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2016, 03:36:02 PM »

What failed the box or the driver?  Is there a way to provide positive air flow out of the area to limit the moisture coming in?

The driver seemed to hold up fairly well. The boxes, on the other hand started to develop a rattling sound whenever a bass note hit. The grill screws pulled through the wood causing the grill to come loose. At first, we thought the loose grill was causing the rattle but upon removing the grills all together, we found out the rattle was coming from the boxes themselves.

The enclosures are mounted flush to concrete. The enclosures themselves have a stainless steel grill with a much finer stainless steel mesh behind it. The ground inside the enclosures are sloped to prevent water accumulation inside. Unfortunately, without digging out the entire area, there is no way to create positive airflow inside.
Logged

Scott Carneval

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1048
    • Precision Audio
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2016, 03:40:11 PM »

The driver seemed to hold up fairly well. The boxes, on the other hand started to develop a rattling sound whenever a bass note hit. The grill screws pulled through the wood causing the grill to come loose. At first, we thought the loose grill was causing the rattle but upon removing the grills all together, we found out the rattle was coming from the boxes themselves.


Did you get the AquaTight option when you ordered the subs? Or did you just have them waterproof the drivers? I've never had a need for AquaTight, but from my understanding it's a fiberglass-type resin that the box is treated with. 

I assume you're going to want output similar to the TH118 from whatever you replace these with? I'm not aware of any other 'tour grade' subs that are truly waterproof. JBL makes some stuff that's rated for direct exposure, but it doesn't have nearly the output of the TH118. So that means 8-16 'conventional' subs.  Do you have space for that?
Logged

g'bye, Dick Rees

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7424
  • Duluth
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2016, 03:44:42 PM »

I've seen those before and they "leak"  ;D ;D

Maybe, but you'll have to admit they're "fetching"...
Logged
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...

Robert Healey

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 341
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2016, 06:04:21 PM »

The One Systems 118HSB is IP56 rated with vent plugs:

http://onesystems.com/hybrid-series/118hsb/

The definition of IP56 is: Protected from limited dust ingress. Protected from high pressure water jets from any direction.

No direct experience with the speaker, but if installed according to the manufacturer instructions One Systems will warranty it for five years.
Logged

Craig Hauber

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1001
  • Mondak Sound Design - Plentywood MT/Grenora ND
Re: VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2016, 07:10:32 PM »

Hi all, I am currently looking for replacement subwoofers in a location that gets very wet. This is for a fountain area and the subs would get direct water/mist exposure. The previous set of subs (4x Danley TH-118) were ordered to be built suitable this type of location, but after 3 years, they didn't hold up too well.

We're looking for replacement subs of any brand that can withstand these conditions. There are a few requisites and they are:

They CANNOT be flown
Preferably, not powered
They must be able to fit in an enclosure 45x25x30 inches.

Any ideas would be appreciated. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
Thanks

Technomad Oslo-18 (multiples of)
Community WX-218sdf  or W2-125 (if you can make them fit)
Logged
Craig Hauber
Mondak Sound Design
-Live PA
-Installs
-Theatre

David Sturzenbecher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1968
  • So. Dak.
    • Sturz Audio
VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 09:10:46 PM »


The definition of IP56 is: Protected from limited dust ingress. Protected from high pressure water jets from any direction.


The JBL WRX is also IP56 rated. 
The ASB6128-WRX is the install equivalent of a Vertec 4880, while the ASB7128-WRX is the install equivalent of a Vertec 4880a.

https://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachments/WR_Configs_AE-PD-VLA_Series0211314.pdf


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Logged
Audio Systems Design Engineer
Daktronics, Inc.
CTS-D, CTS-I
AES Full Member

ProSoundWeb Community

VERY wet location needs subwoofers
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 09:10:46 PM »


Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
 



Site Hosted By Ashdown Technologies, Inc.

Page created in 0.048 seconds with 25 queries.