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[Jim McKeveny]

You cannot time the market. Some items came to market juuuuust past sell-by date.

I'm going to throw out a few examples out, and let's see about takers.

JBL HLA Series

EAW KF750

MSI "Honeycomb".

[Doug Fowler]

You cannot time the market. Some items came to market juuuuust past sell-by date.

I'm going to throw out a few examples out, and let's see about takers.

JBL HLA Series

EAW KF750

MSI "Honeycomb".

A regional company over in Kansas (Tim surely knows) which built their own boxes rolled out a new enormobox in the late 90s, similar to the MD Systems box in form factor.  They're out of business now.

[Chris Hindle]

You cannot time the market. Some items came to market juuuuust past sell-by date.

I'm going to throw out a few examples out, and let's see about takers.

JBL HLA Series

EAW KF750

MSI "Honeycomb".

Yammi PM5K

[Matt Marcus]

I'd be shocked to ever run across one of those.

Yammi PM5K

[Tim McCulloch]

I'd be shocked to ever run across one of those.

I have seen the Yammy PM5K on tour in the last couple of years, although a Heritage 3K is the most common analog desk.  IIRC there might have been a Gamble, too.  The story I heard said Yamaha built a bunch of 5K, but sold less than 200 world wide and there are still new-in-crate 5K mixers in a Yamaha warehouse in Japan.  Not sure how true that is, as I wasn't asked to sign an NDA...

[Craig Leerman]

You cannot time the market. Some items came to market juuuuust past sell-by date.

I'm going to throw out a few examples out, and let's see about takers.

JBL HLA Series

EAW KF750

MSI "Honeycomb".

The Honeycomb would gave been pretty much a bust even if it came out years before.

I'll add the SAC (software audio console) to the list. Not because it came out too late, but more because there was not enough hardware options to get a configured system up and running that would cost less than a manufactured console.

I was told a few years ago that a surface and preamp modules were being designed for the SAC but I think there are so many lower to medium sized console choices out there that it will have a hard time selling folks on the DIY approach to a mixer at this point in time.

Craig


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[Brandon Wright]

Community Air Force

[Doug Fowler]

I have seen the Yammy PM5K on tour in the last couple of years, although a Heritage 3K is the most common analog desk.  IIRC there might have been a Gamble, too.  The story I heard said Yamaha built a bunch of 5K, but sold less than 200 world wide and there are still new-in-crate 5K mixers in a Yamaha warehouse in Japan.  Not sure how true that is, as I wasn't asked to sign an NDA...

I was told by a Yamaha engineer (one of the guys from Japan) that they understood they would not sell many PM5K (PM5D was just out then) but they wanted to build a proper sounding console, and also understood while PM4K was ubiquitous they were also aware of its sonic signature.

[Tim McCulloch]

Community Air Force

They threw a bunch of money at the AirForce, but not enough to get a toe-hold in the high output touring market.

Then Christian Heil teamed up with l'Acoustic and the vDOSC was born.  Vertical arrays became the flavor of the decades and the whole AirForce system was eclipsed by the concept.

Unlike the HLA, the AirForce rig sounded pretty good right out of the box, had decent pattern control, and held together as it got louder.  It was just 10 years too late.

[Justin Bartlett]

You cannot time the market. Some items came to market juuuuust past sell-by date.

I'm going to throw out a few examples out, and let's see about takers.

JBL HLA Series

EAW KF750

MSI "Honeycomb".

EAW UMX.96

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