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Stephen Kirby

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Re: Making a blog/website - Top 3 band tips for a killer live sound
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2015, 07:26:30 pm »

Having been an engineering manager and having inherited staff of both degreed and non-degreed "engineers" I fall back on something I saw years ago (and use this to inspire both types to think first).

A technician has to try it to see if it will work.

An engineer can work it out ahead of time and know that it will work.

Which kind of flies in the face of the "fail fast, fail hard" idiocy pervading tech these days.  A case of cause and effect confusion from not so smart people observing smart people developing something in a directed way that is not obvious to them.
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Re: Making a blog/website - Top 3 band tips for a killer live sound
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2015, 04:52:41 am »

A technician has to try it to see if it will work.

An engineer can work it out ahead of time and know that it will work.
Possibly... but no one ever learned anything by getting it right first time, every time.
One of my heroes is Edwin Land, the inventor of Polaroid photography who dropped out of Harvard to set up his company. 

He absolutely hated coming up with a solution straight away.  He much prefered to get it wrong in every way possible before getting the solution, as that way, you know all of the paramaters of the process you are dealing with.

In contrast to that, another one of my heroes is Nikola Tesla who could visualise whole pieces of equipment then go on to make a working machine straight away.

I suppose that proves that you can't generalise and that everyone works in different ways, none of which can be consider correct or superior to another method.


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Re: Making a blog/website - Top 3 band tips for a killer live sound
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2015, 01:50:01 pm »

Steve,  I would submit that "screening" something by working to experimentally determine a processes boundaries is still a scientific method.  The third leg of that meme is that the scientist conceives it and experimentally verifies it.  That information is then taken by the engineer to detail out a working solution.

e.g. a scientist conceives of the concept of capacitance and experimentally works up a set of laws on it's behavior.  An engineer uses those laws to put a desired influence on a signal.  A technician gets a bunch of capacitors and tries them until he likes the sound.
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« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2015, 04:25:27 pm »

To continue off-topic about engineers and scientists, a pearl of wisdom from my own engineering manager:

"when an engineer builds something, it works, but he doesn't know why it works.
When a scientist builds something, it doesn't work, but he knows exactly why it doesn't work."

(not really sure where to fit technicians into this sarcastic axiom...)
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« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2015, 02:52:33 am »

I'm sure engineers have built lots of things wich didn't work as planned!


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Re: Making a blog/website - Top 3 band tips for a killer live sound
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2015, 09:47:47 am »

To continue off-topic about engineers and scientists, a pearl of wisdom from my own engineering manager:

"when an engineer builds something, it works, but he doesn't know why it works.
When a scientist builds something, it doesn't work, but he knows exactly why it doesn't work."

(not really sure where to fit technicians into this sarcastic axiom...)
... When a technician builds something, he's actually assembling a kit, and when it doesn't work, he knows who to blame.

Would that work? :)
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Re: Making a blog/website - Top 3 band tips for a killer live sound
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2015, 01:39:40 pm »

I do CNC machine work as my main business.
I find mechanical engineers often don't have real world experience and I need to fix a lot of their mistakes; things that will fail or not function as intended, or be impossible to make at all or for a reasonable price.
I have a friend who has an extremely deep understanding of electronics and video, but because he doesn't have a degree (completely self-taught) he get's no respect from the 'engineers' above him who actually know less than he does.
I think the balance of real-world experience and an understanding of underlying processes and science makes for the most effective outcome, no matter what profession.
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« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2015, 02:07:01 pm »


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