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Steve Musitano

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Samick Board...oops
« on: September 28, 2015, 11:21:07 pm »

ok...so this is my first major buy of a mixing console. literally i went from a tiny focus rite to this monster. also, please be patient if this isnt the right thread, i have no idea how to navigate this site yet. ok here it goes....so i bought an old Samick system-164 off of some dude on craigslist, the things in great shape even comes with a intimidator case, nice stuff. but he told me he doesn't have the power supply. so thinking to myself, oh this will be easy....no Samick sells pianos, they no longer do mixing boards. so now i'm left here with some console that i really want to use but ive called everywhere an asked around and i cannot seem to find this dang cord anywhere. its weird, it uses this pin connector i think #20 connectors and there's 5 of them, but they are in a pentagon sort of shape not jut the easy ones where it goes along the outside. and on the outside there seems to be threads of some sort. i always end up doing this i buy equipment that no one sells anymore...i cant win. so if anyone could identify what i can buy for this even if its some off brand supply. please and thank you:)
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2015, 12:02:13 am »

If you had the schematic diagrams for the board, someone electronically savvy might be able to find some other power supply with the same voltages and wire up a connector for you.  But the whole endeavor probably would cost more than the board is worth.  You can keep an eye out for a damaged board or power supply on e-bay but other than that I've very afraid you have a doorstop there.

Samick is entry level stuff in any event.  So I hope you didn't sink too much into it.

This thread should have been in the Lounge, which is for newbies, bands and folks with music store gear on up to the people doing the street festivals and such in your neighborhood.  The Lab is for the folks you see working the big concerts.
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2015, 12:05:09 am »

Do you have the power supply and just need the cable?
Not sure, but the connector may be the type that is used on CB radios. Bob Heil would know. He might even have them in stock.


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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2015, 03:09:26 am »

As Stephen says, if you know someone who is electronically competent, you cn probably work it out.  Probably easier with a connector change.

It will most likely need a +/- 18 volt supply as well as +48v if it has phantom power.  It might also need a +12v supply.


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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2015, 07:25:44 am »

As Stephen says, if you know someone who is electronically competent, you cn probably work it out.  Probably easier with a connector change.

It will most likely need a +/- 18 volt supply as well as +48v if it has phantom power.  It might also need a +12v supply.


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I would bet that a supply from an old Soundcraft SPirit would work and a connector change would be necessary.
Pretty basic console and , IMHO, not worth the trouble.
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2015, 07:32:41 am »

Steve, not to rain on your parade or anything, but don't waste any time on this "project".
I did some repairs on one of those 20 years ago. The summing amps overload way too early, the faders get a little wonky when dirty - the pass full level audio through to the subgroups AND AUXES (no matter where the fader is at)
I can only imagine what you're going to be faced with if you actually do get it fired up.
Buying ANYTHING incomplete is a real crapshoot. This "mixer" is just plain crap.
Sorry.

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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2015, 07:37:24 am »

I would bet that a supply from an old Soundcraft SPirit would work

Like the one in my shed!...


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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2015, 03:43:10 pm »

yeah, i was rethinking it, i only spent 100$, the case i can resell, i dont feel like doing a whole power change and i dont even know if this thing works. i opened it up and there was this weird electrical smell, so it may not work for all i know. i kinda bought it on a whim, i was like...ooo big board low price
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2015, 03:51:46 pm »

yeah, i was rethinking it, i only spent 100$, the case i can resell, i dont feel like doing a whole power change and i dont even know if this thing works. i opened it up and there was this weird electrical smell, so it may not work for all i know. i kinda bought it on a whim, i was like...ooo big board low price

No shortages of low priced big boards out there. I've got a 40 ch Soundcraft 8000 that's probably going to the recyclers cause it'll cost a lot more to fix up than it's worth.

Real shame cause it's been a great board for almost 25 years.
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2015, 05:04:15 pm »

yeah, i was rethinking it, i only spent 100$, the case i can resell, i dont feel like doing a whole power change and i dont even know if this thing works. i opened it up and there was this weird electrical smell, so it may not work for all i know. i kinda bought it on a whim, i was like...ooo big board low price

Nah big turd, any price is too much.

You don't have to rewire it just find out the voltages.  You could shove wires in that plug since it's a female.

That is if you just want to play.

How many channels is it?  If you just want to play get a digital interface and one of the excellent desktop mixing platforms that has dynamics, FX and EQ on each channel.  You can also get practice multitrack files and learn by mixing them down to 2 channels.

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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2015, 09:05:23 pm »

If I'm not mistaken, Samick made some mixers for Carvin ways back (90s?)
Maybe you can find a sister model and its power supply.

I do have to ask...Was it an impulse buy?  You bought a used mixer on Craigslist without so much as turning it on (since no power supply), let alone not testing it.

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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2015, 01:03:50 pm »

i wanna play with it but also record with it. and i'm not to crafty with shoving wires in holes yet, so before i blow up my house, i'll look around one more time lol
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2015, 01:36:32 pm »

What would be the recording use for it?  How would it integrate into your recording rig.  It's likely to be kind of noisy for recording.  Do you have a multitrack recorder that requires mixing down?
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2015, 01:50:02 pm »

Paint Behringer on it, put it on Ebay, and sell it for $250. Someone will buy it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2015, 02:29:17 pm »

Paint Behringer on it, put it on Ebay, and sell it for $250. Someone will buy it.

LoL. actually that market has dried up.  You can't give away analog, especially low end stuff.  Even decent low end like the Allen and Heath GL2400-32 with a case didn't sell for $400


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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2015, 03:00:26 pm »

LoL. actually that market has dried up.  You can't give away analog, especially low end stuff.  Even decent low end like the Allen and Heath GL2400-32 with a case didn't sell for $400

Sold my gl2200-24 for 750 with case on Craigslist.
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2015, 05:23:50 pm »

i wanna play with it but also record with it. and i'm not to crafty with shoving wires in holes yet, so before i blow up my house, i'll look around one more time lol

So, why not tell us more about what you really want to do and we may be able to help you choose well next time?


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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2015, 12:38:44 am »

LoL. actually that market has dried up.  You can't give away analog, especially low end stuff.  Even decent low end like the Allen and Heath GL2400-32 with a case didn't sell for $400
A couple of years ago, Solotech offered me a PM-3000-48 tour pack, delivered, for $2,500
That kinda said big analog is dead, and buried.
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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2015, 07:31:18 am »

Long Island's Westhampton Beach PAC has a pristine Soundcraft MH3-48@FOH. The house has made using other desks simple, with Ramlatch disconnect & spare fanout, but more than 1/2 the national artists coming through use it and leave their digitals (AVID, Digico, Yamaha, Midas) on the truck.

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Re: Samick Board...oops
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2015, 08:51:12 pm »

It doesn't help with your dilemma, but here is the manual:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.delchambre.be/ventes/Samick_SM_242P/Delchambre_Frederic_Samick_242P.pdf&ved=0CCgQFjACahUKEwieop2X1LbIAhVNO4gKHR1wAeY&usg=AFQjCNGSoF1LPkA_qpS_5hHsq55-DPuZiA&sig2=O0soyPqgzx2rT5AJYHN6WQ

Sorry about the huge link, I'm on my tablet, which doesn't allow an advanced reply. It does have 48v phantom power if that helps any electrical whizes.
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