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brian maddox

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Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« on: April 30, 2015, 08:02:19 pm »

So, my boss at a recent gig asked me to take a look at this cable to find out why it wasn't working properly...



Yes, that is only two conductor wire [shield and a center core].  Yes they have tied the shield to pins 1, 3 and the 'strain relief' and therefore the connector shell itself.

Wow.  That's before we get to the fact that the female connector fell apart in my hand as i was trying to get it open. 

Apparently this was purchased online as an assembled cable.  i think they bought quite a few of them.  I told him to track them down and throw them away.  The only thing of value in that cable was the velcro tie they put on it....
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2015, 10:27:43 am »

What happened to their Mogami star quad standards? ;)
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2015, 06:37:17 pm »

What happened to their Mogami star quad standards? ;)

left along with their brilliant tech director...
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 07:36:04 pm »

Belden 8412 with Switchcraft A3f black and  A3m silver.  Everything else is wimpy.  Of course everyone under 50 shakes their heads at this point.  ;D

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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 11:26:26 pm »

Belden 8412 with Switchcraft A3f black and  A3m silver.  Everything else is wimpy.  Of course everyone under 50 shakes their heads at this point.  ;D

Wasn't Belden 8412 used in the construction of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge? It's pretty tough stuff.
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2015, 07:51:49 pm »

The moment someone saw or touched that cable it should have been obvious it was bad. 
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2015, 08:04:05 pm »

Belden 8412 with Switchcraft A3f black and  A3m silver.  Everything else is wimpy.  Of course everyone under 50 shakes their heads at this point.  ;D
I have run across cables made like that during installs, that are many decades old-still work-still limber and have probably never need repair.

Sure it costs more up front-but in the long run-------------
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2015, 08:23:00 pm »

Belden 8412 with Switchcraft A3f black and  A3m silver.  Everything else is wimpy.  Of course everyone under 50 shakes their heads at this point.  ;D

The Clair standard - 8412 with ITT Cannon XLR-3-11C and Switchcraft A3M.  Inside, the braid is sleeved and either a Hellerman sleeve or bit of heat shrink is applied to the cut end of the jacket where the conductors fan out.
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2015, 08:29:11 pm »

The moment someone saw or touched that cable it should have been obvious it was bad.

Well, the moment i touched it i knew it was a cheap piece of crap.  The single conductor wire and wildly stupid wiring scheme was just icing on the cake....
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2015, 09:53:44 pm »

Belden 8412 with Switchcraft A3f black and  A3m silver.  Everything else is wimpy.  Of course everyone under 50 shakes their heads at this point.  ;D

I'm under 50, but I re-built my cable inventory with almost exactly configuration about 3 years ago. I went with silver on both ends. It's very easy now to tell my cables from anyone else's.

Interesting thing I noticed is the old connectors from the 80's or older are more durable than the new ones. It's almost impossible to strip out a screw on the vintages ones. The new ones seem to use a softer metal for the screws. I ended up ruining a few new ones.
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Re: Yeah, cheap cables really ARE a bad idea...
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