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Erik Jerde

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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2015, 11:27:48 pm »

I've been looking at these for Tom mics. Will they survive being hit by sticks?
They look too fragile for that but I gotta ask before I rule them out.

I suppose it depends on the hit and if it was the first one or just the latest in a succession.  I used them for a few years in club land and they lasted.  That said, they are so small that if they are getting hit either you are placing them wrong or the drummer has terrible accuracy.  You should be able to assess the second by looking at the drum head and then make your mic choice from what you see.
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 06:20:18 pm »

I suppose it depends on the hit and if it was the first one or just the latest in a succession.  I used them for a few years in club land and they lasted.  That said, they are so small that if they are getting hit either you are placing them wrong or the drummer has terrible accuracy.  You should be able to assess the second by looking at the drum head and then make your mic choice from what you see.


I'll never understand why people are so afraid of their mics getting hit! In 20 years I could count the mic hits by drummers on 1 hand. And that includes hundreds or maybe thousands of crappy club-level bands! For years I used 57's on toms too!
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 09:30:30 pm »


I'll never understand why people are so afraid of their mics getting hit! In 20 years I could count the mic hits by drummers on 1 hand. And that includes hundreds or maybe thousands of crappy club-level bands! For years I used 57's on toms too!

For what it's worth, a buddy of mine has an SM57 with a fork taped to the top of it. He uses it for snare drums. Fork's taken a beating, but the mic looks great still!

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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 10:46:37 pm »


I'll never understand why people are so afraid of their mics getting hit! In 20 years I could count the mic hits by drummers on 1 hand. And that includes hundreds or maybe thousands of crappy club-level bands! For years I used 57's on toms too!
Years ago I bought 4 akg mics. Little condensers that looked like mini D112s and they sounded great in rehearsals. Drummer broke one on opening night and another one a week later. The other 2 lasted almost a year.
So yes, I'm very concerned about them being hit.
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 11:58:13 pm »

Years ago I bought 4 akg mics. Little condensers that looked like mini D112s and they sounded great in rehearsals. Drummer broke one on opening night and another one a week later. The other 2 lasted almost a year.
So yes, I'm very concerned about them being hit.

Maybe tell the drummer not to hit it?
Or, don't put it where the sticks go?

Or, get a drummer that knows where his drums are?

Have the drummer buy the mics he wants to use. I bet he won't hit them then.


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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 12:00:39 am »

Have the drummer buy the mics he wants to use. I bet he won't hit them then.

Not a bad idea if you can pull it off - or a "you break it you buy it."  Not uncommon for mic stands and vocal mics.  Only really works in clubland if the band is getting paid and you can subtract it from their payout.

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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 12:15:42 am »

It's not like I painted a bullseye on the mics lol. He's reading charts, real busy ones,  so his eyes aren't on his kit. I didn't blame him. Shit happens and it wasn't my dime. I think I got replacements for the first two but then the show closed and the money dried up. That was an expensive short run.
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2015, 10:13:34 pm »

Looks like some zip-ties holding the Shure factory 98 gooseneck assembly. Cool because it stays with the cabinet when cased and is ready when uncased.

Did this influence Dave's choice, or was a 98 the absolute right mic? Dunno. Often good engineering involves making things "hard to get wrong".

As for 98s/Beta 98s in general on toms, I have found the reliability meh, and they do eat up time when assembling/positioning.

In my experience, either of the Sennheiser Evolution Series tom mics set up faster, sound good faster, and can take stick impacts better than anything  I've seen. Fair price and fat warranty too.






I've had the screens pop out after a stick hit on the sennheiser e604's; the e904's wouldn't have this problem.  my shre pg56's and beta56's all have stick dents in the metal.....maybe it's just the drummers i work with but they seem to hit them all the time.


i still remember watching my friend set up a live recording rig on a live band.  as he mounted his akg c414's above the toms he kept reminding the drummer that if he were ever going to hit one of his mic's, tonight was not the night!
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2015, 05:14:32 pm »

I've been looking at these for Tom mics. Will they survive being hit by sticks?
They look too fragile for that but I gotta ask before I rule them out.
The specific model to look for is Beta98-AMP.  Shure came out with this version 3 years ago (if memory serves) for this specific application and they are fantastic.  You can buy them individually or in 3-packs.

http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/beta/beta98amp-miniature-cardioid-drum-microphone

 
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2015, 05:27:13 pm »

The specific model to look for is Beta98-AMP.  Shure came out with this version 3 years ago (if memory serves) for this specific application and they are fantastic.  You can buy them individually or in 3-packs.

http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/beta/beta98amp-miniature-cardioid-drum-microphone

 

never seen those before.  those are cool...
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Re: Miking Flea's Bass
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