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[Roland Clarke 1964]

I'm toying with the idea of getting a very small rig to do small venues 30 x 100ft 100-300 capacity type thing.  We all know that it's difficult to get a one size fits all, but I'm looking for something that can cover a band better than their own "vocal" stand pa.

So it needs to be able to handle a bit of drums, bass, guitar, keys, DI's vocals, etc.

With the changes in modern systems, I am thinking about something that is potentially small and lightweight (well for top cabs at least), with a couple of 1x18 subs, powered would probably be best as I don't want to cart amps round as well.

I have considered things such as the new Presonus AI speakers, QSC, DB Technologies, but am open to other strong recommendations or opinions about the brands (or particular models), already mentioned.

I look forward to everyone's contributions.

[Rob Spence]

What is your budget?


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[Lyle Williams]

If you want to be small, go mono.  One good top over one good sub.

[g'bye, Dick Rees]

30 x 100?

[Roland Clarke 1964]

What is your budget?


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Well an easy solution would be a pair of D&B Q10's over D&B subs, but that's going north of about £12,000 (with amps), I'm thinking south of £8,000,  I'm tempted to maybe look at Presonus 328's over their 1x18 subs.  I want to cover for about 10 X 30m (30 x 100ft) and audiences of 150 - 400.  I figure that there are many in here with more experience with what's available on the cheaper end of the "pro" market.

[Roland Clarke 1964]

If you want to be small, go mono.  One good top over one good sub.

Hi Lyle,

I have several clients that do some smaller form gigs, where (with less than 400 punters) there is a limit on budget.  Usually I dry hire in kit and have my margin plus my fee on top, but with really small shows there isn't the budget for both me and the hire.  A smaller system to cover just these sort of events, that is a level above most "band's own systems", is a niche I am looking to fill.  Being that it will be me and the band helping to hump I need a light, powerful, compact, simple yet elegant solution that can all fit inside a people carrier type vehicle.  Unfortunately a single stack, mono system isn't going to make the grade for my clients, larger gigs, then the budget is there for kit hire.

[g'bye, Dick Rees]

Well an easy solution would be a pair of D&B Q10's over D&B subs, but that's going north of about £12,000 (with amps), I'm thinking south of £8,000,  I'm tempted to maybe look at Presonus 328's over their 1x18 subs.  I want to cover for about 10 X 30m (30 x 100ft) and audiences of 150 - 400.  I figure that there are many in here with more experience with what's available on the cheaper end of the "pro" market.

You'll have no trouble "covering" 30 x 100, but the greater portion of the room will be in the reverberative field.  Best bet to maximize the direct sound field would be a single center speaker with pattern control as low as you can afford. 

Otherwise, some 40 degree tops if you're going to go 1/side...

[Roland Clarke 1964]

30 x 100?

Medium size function rooms, larger bars, small halls, ok it may be 50ft x 80ft, but I think you get the idea.

[Roland Clarke 1964]

You'll have no trouble "covering" 30 x 100, but the greater portion of the room will be in the reverberative field.  Best bet to maximize the direct sound field would be a single center speaker with pattern control as low as you can afford. 

Otherwise, some 40 degree tops if you're going to go 1/side...

I get your point, but this won't be an install situation so single centre isn't going to work, and it's got to be a sort of one size made to work for all.  Are there any specific brands or boxes in my budget (size criteria), you would recommend that I need to be listening too?

[g'bye, Dick Rees]

I get your point, but this won't be an install situation so single centre isn't going to work, and it's got to be a sort of one size made to work for all.  Are there any specific brands or boxes in my budget (size criteria), you would recommend that I need to be listening too?

Well, the Q10's pattern is 110 degrees and the 328's is 90 degrees, so I wouldn't recommend either as using 1/side is going to spill a lot onto the walls one way or the other.

You might want to look at a compromise like the QSC K12 with a 75 degree conical pattern...AND a built in tilter.

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