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Author Topic: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter  (Read 4416 times)

Frank DeWitt

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History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« on: October 29, 2014, 01:04:36 pm »

Interesting that this once existed.
Note, I am not recommending this. Don't do it. It is not a good idea. I am not in favor of it. Don't get any ideas. 


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Stephen Swaffer

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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 01:17:19 pm »

Is it UL listed?  If so I would be tempted to use just long enough to see the inspector stutter and stammer and try to find a way to make me get rid of it!
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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 01:25:55 pm »

Is it UL listed?  If so I would be tempted to use just long enough to see the inspector stutter and stammer and try to find a way to make me get rid of it!

At first, I thought it was 2 -40 amp poles to 2 outlets !!!....but I see it's 1 pole only and fused at 15 amps.
Other than the missing ground pin, why would it be unsafe?
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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 04:41:40 pm »

At first, I thought it was 2 -40 amp poles to 2 outlets !!!....but I see it's 1 pole only and fused at 15 amps.
Other than the missing ground pin, why would it be unsafe?

Agreed. Really nothing different than a distro with a range plug and proper OCPD for the branch circuits.

However, this fits in a "3-wire" range receptacle. That means the center pin of the receptacle is either ground or neutral -- for most ranges, both chassis and neutral are bonded to this terminal. The question then becomes, how is this ground/neutral terminal connected to the service panel? Is the conductor a separate, insulated conductor? Is it an uninsulated conductor inside the cable jacket? Is it continuous back to the panel? Are there any other bond points between the service panel and the receptacle? The answers to those questions would determine the suitability of this adapter. Whether or not the adapter is safe really isn't the question -- if it's in good repair and used as the manufacturer intended, it's safe. The question of safety has more to do with the receptacle and the wiring leading up to it. If the adapter did not have a fuse, or if the fuse was not the one specified for the device, then it would be unsafe.

A 16AWG extension cord with no integral OCPD connected to a 20A circuit is less safe than this device.
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Frank DeWitt

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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 08:59:23 pm »

Here is another odd one.  I bought this one for my collection.

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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 09:39:11 pm »

You find some cool stuff, Frank.  Thanks for sharing the gems with us.
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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 11:28:35 pm »

Out of curiosity-2 silver screws and 2 brass.  I assume the brass screws are for a switch hot, with the pilot lamp to the switch leg are the silver screws switch or just feed thru?
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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 11:50:16 pm »

Frank,

You need one of these original Edison outlets. I've seen a few a them in old houses quite a few years ago, but not lately. 

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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 11:37:51 am »

Saw  several of them in service at. 

The Liriodendron Foundation, Inc
502 West Gordon Steet, Bel Air, MD 21014:

Question is if the NVC was lighting up ??

And on the dryer plug the outlets are most likely not polarized and sized ??
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Re: History Range outlet to Duplex addapter
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2014, 12:09:08 pm »

Interesting that this once existed.

Looks like that one still does exist.


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