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Rick Earl

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How do you stop things like this?
« on: September 09, 2014, 03:24:11 pm »

I saw this ad today, I was tempted to buy it just to get it off the streets.

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/msg/4659990782.html

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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2014, 03:27:23 pm »

I saw this ad today, I was tempted to buy it just to get it off the streets.

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/msg/4659990782.html


Scary to think of how many boxes like that get used on a regular basis....
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 03:29:29 pm »

I saw this ad today, I was tempted to buy it just to get it off the streets.

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/msg/4659990782.html


I'm confused.... it looks to be 3 -- but he has L14-30 twist on 10/4, so that's not enough conductors... oww... my head....
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 03:30:53 pm »

I saw this ad today, I was tempted to buy it just to get it off the streets.

http://greensboro.craigslist.org/msg/4659990782.html


Wow! This is bad... VERY bad....  >:(

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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 03:32:43 pm »

I'm confused.... it looks to be 3 -- but he has L14-30 twist on 10/4, so that's not enough conductors... oww... my head....

I think the 3rd fuse is for the neutral, which I'm guessing is the black battery clamp. As I said... VERY bad.
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 03:34:14 pm »

Serious suggestion here: How about EVERYONE responds to the ad to tell him how f*cked up his "distro" is? If his email gets blown up by professionals slamming him, and insisting he pull it from sale immediately, maybe he will?

I mean, you can sell 100' of L14-30 for a couple hundred bucks, so just be like "dude, sell the cable, scrap your distro, call it a day."

Mike, not sure, because it looks like there's another wire coming in on the right side. With white, but maybe he intends that to be the grounding line. Since I don't see a ground anywhere else. A fused neutral... hmmm.
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 03:37:36 pm »

Serious suggestion here: How about EVERYONE responds to the ad to tell him how f*cked up his "distro" is? If his email gets blown up by professionals slamming him, and insisting he pull it from sale immediately, maybe he will?
I did "flag" it on CL as prohibited.  ;D But it'll probably take a lot of "flags" to get it pulled.
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 03:41:28 pm »

I'm confused.... it looks to be 3 -- but he has L14-30 twist on 10/4, so that's not enough conductors... oww... my head....
and 10/4 is only rated for 25A....
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 03:41:54 pm »


Mike, not sure, because it looks like there's another wire coming in on the right side. With white, but maybe he intends that to be the grounding line. Since I don't see a ground anywhere else. A fused neutral... hmmm.

I just don't know. I'm pretty sure it's not actually 3-phase, but maybe I'm wrong. There's little chance there's anything code compliant about this sort of setup, so anything's possible.

Yes, they used to fuse the neutrals in old theater wiring for lighting. I can remember seeing it in the Maryland Theater back in the 70's. Of course, we don't fuse neutrals nowadays for a variety of safety and troubleshooting reasons. I'm getting ready to teach a class in a few minutes, but after I get home tonight I'll look this guy up on Craigslist and have a chat with him about the liability of selling something that's a serous code violation. He probably won't care, but at least I'll sleep a little better.
 
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Re: How do you stop things like this?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 04:43:47 pm »

I just don't know. I'm pretty sure it's not actually 3-phase, but maybe I'm wrong. There's little chance there's anything code compliant about this sort of setup, so anything's possible.

Yes, they used to fuse the neutrals in old theater wiring for lighting. I can remember seeing it in the Maryland Theater back in the 70's. Of course, we don't fuse neutrals nowadays for a variety of safety and troubleshooting reasons. I'm getting ready to teach a class in a few minutes, but after I get home tonight I'll look this guy up on Craigslist and have a chat with him about the liability of selling something that's a serous code violation. He probably won't care, but at least I'll sleep a little better.

The blue looks like it goes to neutral lug but the black clamp goes to a fuse.  I am sure he just didn't know any better.

I have seen these used locally, including at a church dogwash that had booths for local pet vendors and a small stage for the youth band.  I was freaked out with all the tubs of water and wet barefoot children running around.  I could not convince anyone to do anything about it and even by cop buddy said it was a code enforcement issue.

I requested a meeting with the pastor and whomever was reasonable for this mess.  My reward?  They don't call me for work anymore.

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Re: How do you stop things like this?
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