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[Steve M Smith]

Didn't Clair Bros. have a giant point source rig that they flew for big names like AC/DC?

Yes:  http://www.prosoundweb.com/images/uploads/Fig5ClairBroArt.jpg

And there is the Rat Trap 5 system: http://www.prosoundweb.com/images/uploads/DR2RatTrap5Image.jpg


Steve.

[Robert Piascik]

That Rat Trap 5 system link didn't work for me. Try this:

http://www.ratsound.com/highlite.htm

[Ivan Beaver]

Didn't Clair Bros. have a giant point source rig that they flew for big names like AC/DC?

I guess it depends on what you call a "point source"-----------

[Steve M Smith]

Perhaps it's a 'points' source.


Stevge.

[Ray Aberle]

Why does a "point source" have to be ground stacked?

In any case-getting the PA UP is a good idea.

In order to be anywhere near a fair comparison-the playing field has to be equal.  Things like-physical size-weight-cost-amplifier power-processing and so forth all matter in the end.

You can't take one aspect of one type of cabinet and compare it to a different one of another cabinet.

OK, so I said "when the circumstances call for it" -- "is a line array superior?" but at the same time I was making the point that PS and LA are just different tools in the box. So I was confusing, sorry. (ack, Ivan still called me out.  fml.)

*sighs*

haha. I guess I was trying to clarify the point that with proper advance and modeling, choose the tool that is best for the job, regardless of what type of rig it might be.

[Luke Geis]

Seismic Audio just made an announcement a few weeks ago that they are releasing a line array. There you go, the LA market juts hit fisher price status.... That is how much of a market LA's have made for themselves.

[Ray Aberle]

Seismic Audio just made an announcement a few weeks ago that they are releasing a line array. There you go, the LA market juts hit fisher price status.... That is how much of a market LA's have made for themselves.

I want to say someone posted their intro marketing video on here? I seem to remember that...

Bottom of the barrel, they might be, but they had a snazzy marketing video, and that will more then likely equal sales to the ill-informed market.

On the OTHER HAND, people seeing/hearing shitty rigs will then be more surprised with how good a line array system can actually sound (yes, yes, when chosen appropriately and deployed to manufacturer's specs) and that will equal more business for the good rigs out there.

I hope... haha.

-Ray "bought an 88 rig this year and needs to pay for it" Aberle

[Ryan McLeod]

It looks as if someone has found some truths, half truths and buzzwords and mixed them in with some nonsense and mythology.

I believe, in technical terms that's called "Marketing". 

I admit that when I think 'line array" I generally think in medium- to-large terms, and I think it's a fair guess that most of us here do - depending on who you ask, I'd guess that a 6-12 box hang a side is our 'vision'.

I was in a very nice, upscale venue recently with a "very compact, single speaker cabinets in the shape of a line array' installed - the room is no more than 50' deep and they sounded great - but that didn't stop me from doing what my client paid me for and put SOS's at  points in the room for speech. It was less expensive to pay my additional labor, gear and operator fees than to hire the in-house provider that paid to install them in the first place. I've done the same a dozen times in the same room in the last year for this  client, and with luck will do more.

Install & in- house AV is a completely different set of rules, lies and half-truths that I'm learning as I spend more time on all if the different sides. As the op mentions room treatment, I think an installed system is what's being discussed.

I have to ask - were the quotes & lit on the "line array in question" printed by the speaker manufacturer?

[Steve M Smith]

I believe, in technical terms that's called "Marketing". 

I admit that when I think 'line array" I generally think in medium- to-large terms, and I think it's a fair guess that most of us here do - depending on who you ask, I'd guess that a 6-12 box hang a side is our 'vision'.

Some of us can remember these: http://www.voxshowroom.com/uk/amp/ls40.html


Steve.

[Scott Holtzman]

The nightmare just gets worse, Seismic released them today:

http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com/line-arrays/c/879

No meaningful specs, processing or coverage tools. 

These things are going to show up everywhere ground stacked and the uninformed will sing the praises.  On the other end of the spectrum 2 6 box hangs, flyware, flown sub comes in at 9k with domestic shipping.  No rider will ever take them but the price point is aggressive.  Can't imagine the build quality will be impressive.

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