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Michael Ardai, N1IST

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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2014, 09:41:37 pm »

There are some artists with NM as well...

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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 12:27:35 am »

Just as in the audio world, the bottom line for may customers is the dollar.  Quality workmanship often takes more time, and quality workers cost more to keep on the payroll. The reality is that I prefer to do top of the line work, but I have to stay busy which means I have to be competitive even with guys that take shortcuts.

The thing about quality workmanship is it can reduce the TCO:
  • Fewer callbacks during or after construction
  • Fewer problems requiring diagnosis and repair
  • Easier diagnosis and repair where there is a problem
  • Easier installation of upgrades and changes
To top it off, some of the most skilled workers get the job done more quickly BECAUSE the quality of their workmanship is so high. Unlike hack-jobs, they don't make a mess in the process that has to be cleaned up. They work well with other trades, not getting in each others' ways. There is much less waste -- both in materials and time. Materials are used in the most efficient manner possible.
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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2014, 09:46:34 am »

There are some artists with NM as well...

/mike

Am I the only one that finds this picture kinda sexy? Is this the "cable porn" I'm always hearing about?  ;D
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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 02:33:10 am »

This is true craftsmanship in the modern age, found on the 'net. Electrical contractor not identified.



Source: http://www.electriciansonlinetraining.net/__conduit_bending_emt.html

If you do it right the first time, you won't have to do it right a second time.
this is not my work but its the kind i do. i wanted to take fotos of the condiut work i did and expected others on my crew to do but most businesses did not allow cameras and if caught taking with a phone got us kicked off the job. thats that way conduit should look.
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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 02:41:33 am »

So too are the customers that are willing to pay for quality work. Just as in the audio world, the bottom line for may customers is the dollar.  Quality workmanship often takes more time, and quality workers cost more to keep on the payroll.
quality takes more time ? not true. i am a commercial electrician. first of all theirs no such thing in electrical as top quiality vs crappy. the job is gotten by the bidding process. the customer expects the job to be done right. doing quality work like in foto doesnt take any more time. it actually takes less time since you have your other measurements after the 1st bend. neat conduit work goes faster. i dont expect non commercial electricians to understand this. all my jobs came in on time and unless the bossman underbid they were on or under budget. crappy conduit work show people dont give a dam and are only on the job to collect a paycheck. i put my name on every job i did.
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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2014, 03:54:43 pm »

Am I the only one that finds this picture kinda sexy? Is this the "cable porn" I'm always hearing about?  ;D
I don't know about "SEXY", but a real head-turner nonetheless.
frank
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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2014, 08:38:09 pm »

Here is a switchboard I saw yesterday.  It is in the Liberty ship on display in San Francisco.  It is energized (120 volts DC)-and the screen on the right was just recently to protect the public-never mind that I could have reached live parts fairly easily had I desired to do so.  Of particular interest is the brass "guardrail" across the front-such a convenient place to rest your hand to steady yourself as the ship rolls-while you operate the switchboard?  Keep in mind this is in the upper part of the steam engine room-so penty of heat and moisture so likely your hands would not be dry!

Another interesting note-the ship runs in 120 VDC-but they can install CFLs and they run just fine on the DC.  Makes sense-just never occurred to me that you could do that..
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Re: Antique Functional Electrical Vault
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2014, 09:16:10 pm »

It is in the Liberty ship on display in San Francisco. 

I don't think San Francisco is real.
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