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Alberto Escrina

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Neil Diamond JBL touring system
« on: August 29, 2014, 04:55:42 pm »

Hi everyone!
I´m working on a seminar on these days and I would like to find a picture of a huge sound system of JBL cabinets for a Neil Diamond concert of 30++ years ago.
It was a very very big suspended point source array.
I recall I saw it on a JBL advertising banner.
Any clue will be highly appreciated!
Any other similar picture of another manufacturer welcome!
Thank you very much!
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Re: Neil Diamond JBL touring system
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 06:06:04 pm »

Hi everyone!
I´m working on a seminar on these days and I would like to find a picture of a huge sound system of JBL cabinets for a Neil Diamond concert of 30++ years ago.
It was a very very big suspended point source array.
I recall I saw it on a JBL advertising banner.
Any clue will be highly appreciated!
Any other similar picture of another manufacturer welcome!
Thank you very much!

Here's a link to the system that I think you are referencing.  http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/re_p_filesstanal_sound_with_new_concert_series_speaker_system_for_neil_diam/live/P2/

Many of the manufacturers have a history section on their websites that may have pics that fit your needs.

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 08:01:31 pm »

Hi Lee,
Thank you very much for posting the picture.
That´s not the one I was talking about but, in case I can´t find it, it will work for sure.
Yes, I have to look at some manufacturer´s websites. My goal is to show one of the reasons (just one of them) why line arrays became so popular on touring: hanging trap boxes arrays at stadium scale concerts was a nightmare! So any picture from any manufacturer will work.
I´m not looking forward to start any debate or discussion. I know some other reasons that count, but most of them have nothing to do with sound improvement.
Thanks a lot!
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Re: Neil Diamond JBL touring system
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 08:21:17 pm »

Hi Lee,
Thank you very much for posting the picture.
That´s not the one I was talking about but, in case I can´t find it, it will work for sure.
Yes, I have to look at some manufacturer´s websites. My goal is to show one of the reasons (just one of them) why line arrays became so popular on touring: hanging trap boxes arrays at stadium scale concerts was a nightmare! So any picture from any manufacturer will work.
I´m not looking forward to start any debate or discussion. I know some other reasons that count, but most of them have nothing to do with sound improvement.
Thanks a lot!
Best regards,

Here is a link to a thread from PSW a number of years ago.  There may be some shots in the links there that you can use.
http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=110963.0

There are some here:
http://www.turbosound.com/docs2/static_page/Turbosound_History.shtml

Lee
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Re: Neil Diamond JBL touring system
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 11:52:45 am »

My goal is to show one of the reasons (just one of them) why line arrays became so popular on touring: hanging trap boxes arrays at stadium scale concerts was a nightmare!
If you think flying trap boxes was a nightmare, check out the "Flying Junkyard" in post #5, composed of various Stanley Screamers from Stanal Sound, Stan Miller's company, Stan used this type of stuff for Neil Diamond before his association with JBL.

http://www.hostboard.com/forums/f700/179203-ot-stan-miller-founder-stanal-sound-stanley-screamers.html
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 12:53:45 pm »

Here's a link to the system that I think you are referencing.  http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/re_p_filesstanal_sound_with_new_concert_series_speaker_system_for_neil_diam/live/P2/

Many of the manufacturers have a history section on their websites that may have pics that fit your needs.

Lee

That looks like a rigging nightmare.... I wonder what the total weight of that hang is?
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Re: Neil Diamond JBL touring system
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 02:00:29 pm »

That looks like a rigging nightmare.... I wonder what the total weight of that hang is?
How about the PA that Pink Floyd used for "The wall" tour????????
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 02:24:05 pm »

How about the PA that Pink Floyd used for "The wall" tour????????

It´s funny Ivan, that´s the example of "Flying Junkyard" Art posted before.
Thanks to you all.
(Still searching for that JBL / N. Diamond tour advertising)
Rgds,
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 05:36:12 pm »

It´s funny Ivan, that´s the example of "Flying Junkyard" Art posted before.
Thanks to you all.
(Still searching for that JBL / N. Diamond tour advertising)
Rgds,
I have normally heard the term "flying junkyard" to the systems that Elvis toured with towards the end.  I think it was Clair-but not sure.

Those were basically a platform with the speakers stacked up on them-lifted up by just a few motors.  Not speakers flown from truss or fly points.  Very different approaches.

But I guess you could call most of those old systems "junk yards".
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Re: Neil Diamond JBL touring system
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2014, 02:43:25 pm »

I have normally heard the term "flying junkyard" to the systems that Elvis toured with towards the end.  I think it was Clair-but not sure.

Those were basically a platform with the speakers stacked up on them-lifted up by just a few motors.  Not speakers flown from truss or fly points.  Very different approaches.

But I guess you could call most of those old systems "junk yards".

This one. Elvis with Clair Bros.
It looks "the flying junkyard" name was specially dedicated to Stan Miller´s design for The Wall.
6+ two ton. motors?
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Re: Neil Diamond JBL touring system
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