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Frederik Rosenkjær

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Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« on: August 29, 2014, 02:40:57 AM »

I just bought a Mac Book Pro, my first Mac ever, and installed all the stuff I need, among these Yamaha CL Editor.

It works fine, but the contents of the window (the mixer view) are so big that I need to scroll around to see it all - it doesn't fit on the screen all at once, not even just one normal 16-channel view. Obviously OSX is scaling up the graphics, because on my Windows machine with 1920x1080 resolution it all fits with lots of room to spare, but on this screen, which has way more real estate, I have to scroll around.

Is there anything to do about this? Can I scale down the contents of the window?
Sorry if this has been covered (I imagine it's not new), but I couldn't find anything via Google.
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 06:24:03 AM »

I just bought a Mac Book Pro, my first Mac ever, and installed all the stuff I need, among these Yamaha CL Editor.

It works fine, but the contents of the window (the mixer view) are so big that I need to scroll around to see it all - it doesn't fit on the screen all at once, not even just one normal 16-channel view. Obviously OSX is scaling up the graphics, because on my Windows machine with 1920x1080 resolution it all fits with lots of room to spare, but on this screen, which has way more real estate, I have to scroll around.

Is there anything to do about this? Can I scale down the contents of the window?
Sorry if this has been covered (I imagine it's not new), but I couldn't find anything via Google.

The same inflexible programming that makes SM2 too small on the same MacBook pro screen? I haven't figured out a reasonable workaround.
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 06:25:13 AM »

The OSX way to unzoom a window is a two finger movement where your thumb and forefinger come together (like a pinch).  Try it in safari, zoom in, zoom out,...

I doubt it will work on the Yamaha app

All of the console apps I have worked with are designed for a certain fixed window size and resolution and don't have any zoom capabilities. Yamaha may be using some 'old' portable Windows/OSX GUI API that doesn't recognize the actual retina resolution.
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 12:15:26 PM »

I just bought a Mac Book Pro, my first Mac ever, and installed all the stuff I need, among these Yamaha CL Editor.

It works fine, but the contents of the window (the mixer view) are so big that I need to scroll around to see it all - it doesn't fit on the screen all at once, not even just one normal 16-channel view. Obviously OSX is scaling up the graphics, because on my Windows machine with 1920x1080 resolution it all fits with lots of room to spare, but on this screen, which has way more real estate, I have to scroll around.

Is there anything to do about this? Can I scale down the contents of the window?
Sorry if this has been covered (I imagine it's not new), but I couldn't find anything via Google.

AFAIK there is no way to scale the editor window, but I have no problem on my non-retina MacBook Pro. Does your screen look like this?

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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 12:27:48 PM »

I just bought a Mac Book Pro, my first Mac ever, and installed all the stuff I need, among these Yamaha CL Editor.

It works fine, but the contents of the window (the mixer view) are so big that I need to scroll around to see it all - it doesn't fit on the screen all at once, not even just one normal 16-channel view. Obviously OSX is scaling up the graphics, because on my Windows machine with 1920x1080 resolution it all fits with lots of room to spare, but on this screen, which has way more real estate, I have to scroll around.

Is there anything to do about this? Can I scale down the contents of the window?
Sorry if this has been covered (I imagine it's not new), but I couldn't find anything via Google.

I don't know if it has been tried, but go to System Preferences >> Displays you should see something like this

and see if adjusting between more space and larger text makes a difference.
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Riley Casey

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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 01:49:03 PM »

Damn, I thought I had a lot of crap in my menu bar.   ::)

AFAIK there is no way to scale the editor window, but I have no problem on my non-retina MacBook Pro. Does your screen look like this?

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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »

Damn, I thought I had a lot of crap in my menu bar.   ::)


Lol, Mac has me beat too. If I had that much on mine I wouldn't be able to see most of it as I'm on a non-Retina 13 inch. :)


I don't know if it has been tried, but go to System Preferences >> Displays you should see something like this

and see if adjusting between more space and larger text makes a difference.

You also might try "Best for display" which should make the screen run at it's native resolution. This may make text very hard to read though.
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 01:11:02 PM »

You also might try "Best for display" which should make the screen run at it's native resolution. This may make text very hard to read though.
The native resolution of the 15" is 3840x2400.  OSX will not scale to this resolution.  If you select "Best for display" it will look like 1440x900.  If you select more space the sizing will look like 1920x1200.
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 01:19:55 PM »

The native resolution of the 15" is 3840x2400.  OSX will not scale to this resolution.  If you select "Best for display" it will look like 1440x900.  If you select more space the sizing will look like 1920x1200.

Interesting, didn't know that. I don't have a Retina model and haven't tried it; I'm surprised that you can't make it run at full resolution, though it would probably make text very small.

It is possible to run the screen at native resolution with an app like QuickRes. Not sure if that helps the OP or not though.
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2014, 01:24:28 PM »

Interesting, didn't know that. I don't have a Retina model and haven't tried it; I'm surprised that you can't make it run at full resolution, though it would probably make text very small.

It is possible to run the screen at native resolution with an app like QuickRes. Not sure if that helps the OP or not though.
Tommy,  QuickRes or similar could probably do it.  I know from running the native resolution in Window 7 that it is possible but too small to be useful.  OP just needs to set to "more space".
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Re: Why is CL Editor so big on Retina screen?
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