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Zachary Zimmerman

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Day to day measurement mics
« on: April 28, 2014, 05:10:31 PM »

What are you guys using for your day to day pa setup and measurements.

I have a rational acoustics basic mic. I'm looking to step up to the next level. The guys I work with have the older audix's that are no longer made. 
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Mac Kerr

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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 05:18:27 PM »

What are you guys using for your day to day pa setup and measurements.

I have a rational acoustics basic mic. I'm looking to step up to the next level. The guys I work with have the older audix's that are no longer made.

What do you think you'lll gain with a new mic?

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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 05:44:54 PM »

What do you think you'lll gain with a new mic?

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I just want something a little more pro quality that's all
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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 05:58:01 PM »

I just want something a little more pro quality that's all

For tuning a PA there is nothing wrong with the mic you have. Spending several times the money might get you a mic that has flatter response above 10k, but I do very little tuning above 10k (none).

Mid priced measurement mics like the Josephson 550 or the Earthworks M23 will run you $400-$450. Then you"ll have a mic that won't serve your purpose that much better, but that you'll worry about every time you use it.

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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 07:27:14 PM »

Is there and in between level between that is >100 and <400.
 If I'm going to spend some money on getting up to 4 mics should I go with more of what I have or step up just a little bit.
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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 07:31:43 PM »

We use Audix TM-1's for budget yet decent mics.

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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 07:55:43 PM »

Is there and in between level between that is >100 and <400.
 If I'm going to spend some money on getting up to 4 mics should I go with more of what I have or step up just a little bit.

Since you already have the Rational RTA-420, get more of them if you want to do multi mic measurements. If you really want to spend more money Rational sells the ISEMcon EMX-7150 for $300, but for most uses there is no advantage over the RTA-420.

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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 08:02:32 PM »

Since you already have the Rational RTA-420, get more of them if you want to do multi mic measurements. If you really want to spend more money Rational sells the ISEMcon EMX-7150 for $300, but for most uses there is no advantage over the RTA-420.

Mac

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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 08:42:54 PM »

What are you guys using for your day to day pa setup and measurements.

I have a rational acoustics basic mic. I'm looking to step up to the next level. The guys I work with have the older audix's that are no longer made.

I just came back from Smaart training a few days ago. On day 3 we measured and used 4 mics ranging from the RTA 420 to the DPA 4007 which is in the 2k range. There was VERY little difference in response between all the mics and we used them interchangeably. This convinced me that, especially when getting started in the measurement game, there's very little point in me spending more than $100 on a measurement mic. The instructor absolutely acknowledged that the more expensive ones are better mics, but by specifically choosing to use 4 mics that run the gamut from bottom to top of the line, he basically made the point that Mac is making (without outright saying it). The higher spl handling of the more expensive mics could be a factor for someone who might need to do nearfield measurements at very high spl's, but not for what I do.

He also mentioned (which was kind of funny) that when people see him using the DPA they assume he knows what he's doing and with they see him with the RTA 420, (some) will incorrectly assume the opposite.
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Re: Day to day measurement mics
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 10:33:51 AM »

Zach,

What we recommend is at most only having one high end mic to use as a reference mic. This mic stays in the shop or seldom leaves its case. For the bulk of your measurement needs a low cost measurement mic is ideal, for all of the reasons indicated by previous posters. But also because measurement mics are often placed in harms way and are put at risk of being damaged each time they are used. If your mic stand is knocked over and your mic is driven in to the floor capsule first, would you prefer it was an inexpensive mic that you could easily replace, or an expensive mic?

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