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Cameron Stuckey

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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 01:13:57 PM »

This has actually been discussed for quite some time. 

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And for many valid reasons. But in my opinion(as a 20-something) broadcast television isn't going to be replaced by cable services, it's going to be replaced by on-demand internet content. If we were to eliminate broadcast television it would have to be replaced by a public service of some kind for the dissemination of information(weather alerts, elections, emergencies, etc.). Learning more and more about "white space devices" it seems like a single data broadcast nationwide to all device could accomplish that task of dissemination, but then we begin to talk about effective size of the data stream and guard bands, etc., right back to battling over spectrum. They're already looking to use the white space for "broadband to cows," allowing places that formerly were cost ineffective to run copper or fiber to, high speed internet access. Really interesting though experiment if we were to replace broadcast television with a single nation wide data service. But, I doubt that'll happen. They still haven't figure out how to advertise on the internet and broadcast television is a large revenue stream for a lot of businesses.
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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 03:45:53 PM »

And for many valid reasons. But in my opinion(as a 20-something) broadcast television isn't going to be replaced by cable services, it's going to be replaced by on-demand internet content.
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I'd say cable TV will be going the same direction as broadcast TV too(I.E. will be replaced by streaming online content). IMO it will be a great day when I can get whatever live TV I want streamed online to my TV, laptop, iPad, and phone. In regards to everything that's on TV what I want to see is "a la carte" access to everything on any device I own anywhere; the technology exists  it's just a matter of time before it's implemented.

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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 03:47:42 PM »

Manufacturers have already been looking forward.  From low intermod systems which can be more densely packed like Shure Axient and ULX-D to way out of band .Audio Technica Spectra pulse.

They have as much a stake in finding ways to fit in the new spectrum constraints as we have need for wireless.  All hope is not lost.
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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 06:55:57 PM »

Learning more and more about "white space devices" it seems like a single data broadcast nationwide to all device could accomplish that task of dissemination, but then we begin to talk about effective size of the data stream and guard bands, etc., right back to battling over spectrum. They're already looking to use the white space for "broadband to cows," allowing places that formerly were cost ineffective to run copper or fiber to, high speed internet access. Really interesting though experiment if we were to replace broadcast television with a single nation wide data service.

White space offers little bandwidth and horrid range compared to television.  One major issue may be what system, during events like hurricanes and large area winter ice storms, can cover a large area.  White space and cellular service won't cut it as they don't have the range since they are designed to be cell based not wide area based. 
We will just have to wait and see what is proposed and what develops.

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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 07:42:33 PM »

White space offers little bandwidth and horrid range compared to television.  One major issue may be what system, during events like hurricanes and large area winter ice storms, can cover a large area.  White space and cellular service won't cut it as they don't have the range since they are designed to be cell based not wide area based. 
We will just have to wait and see what is proposed and what develops.

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So, something like a NOAA Weather radio then. Or AM/FM radio of any kind. But I guess people want to see pretty faces sitting in nice studios half way across the country talking about how bad it is at their location....some maybe something like slow scan HAM-TV....
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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2013, 11:19:32 PM »

So, something like a NOAA Weather radio then. Or AM/FM radio of any kind. But I guess people want to see pretty faces sitting in nice studios half way across the country talking about how bad it is at their location....some maybe something like slow scan HAM-TV....

None of the audio only options, which certainly do exist in current technology, allow you to see weather radar.  They are better than nothing but don't replace having the visual.

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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2013, 12:33:24 AM »

None of the audio only options, which certainly do exist in current technology, allow you to see weather radar.  They are better than nothing but don't replace having the visual.

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I certainly agree that being able to see a live weather radar image yourself is the best option. But unless you have a data connection you're hosed. It could be concievable that NOAA could send a slow scan image of the current radar along with their audio broadcast, but of course that would require a frequency and the band width to do it, and devices capable of receiving and displaying it.


Actually, I think this would be a better solution than watching the weather on local or network TV stations.
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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2013, 01:21:02 AM »

I hope that someday 3G and better cellular internet service will become as "ubiquitous" and almost as cheap as broadcast TV. Unfortunately neither is the case where I live; there are plenty of places where I'll lose cell coverage completely (not to mention data) around here even though it's not really in the middle of nowhere. There are places in Mineola(nearest town with a Walmart) where I'll randomly lose signal. I will say that I'm on AT&T which isn't quite as good as Verizon in this area, but you can't use an unlocked GSM phone on Verizon(CDMA network) and that's what I have(I'm on AT&T's prepaid Go Phone plan).

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Re: 600MHz Auctions - Mid 2015
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 08:52:20 AM »

I very much doubt broadcast TV will ever go completely away. There are still plenty of people who can't afford high speed internet, but who are still willing to sit through commercials. And it's not like it's hard to get a free or almost free television these days.
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