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chris harkin:
--- Quote from: Bob Leonard on August 31, 2013, 12:08:41 AM ---MADI connectivity solutions;
Soundcraft recommended solutions for MADI connectivity.
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Hello,
I'm having a lot of problems trying to get madi to work correctly. I have a si expression 3 (slave) and a si performer 2 going into a mini stage box. I've tried just about everything i can see signal on both boards on the right channel but have absolutely no control on the master board. the trim on the slave board does not seem to be working either. Cant seem to get sound craft technical support on the phone for the life of me. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
thanks!
Mac Kerr:
--- Quote from: chrish on August 19, 2014, 01:01:56 PM ---Hello,
I'm having a lot of problems trying to get madi to work correctly. I have a si expression 3 (slave) and a si performer 2 going into a mini stage box. I've tried just about everything i can see signal on both boards on the right channel but have absolutely no control on the master board. the trim on the slave board does not seem to be working either. Cant seem to get sound craft technical support on the phone for the life of me. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
thanks!
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Steven Welwood:
--- Quote from: Bob Leonard on June 19, 2014, 11:54:06 PM ---
That has not been stated by Soundcraft, and the diagram came from Soundcraft.
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Getting mixed messages from Soundcraft.
My setup is just the FOH board and Stagebox 32. I got a 150' cable that seems to match the specs you show above, but I've been getting clicks similar to word clock issues. I messaged Elliot from SC through Facebook, and this is an excerpt of his response to me:
--- Quote ---Our MADI (as were are the only company that has MADI over cat 5) needs a good quality of sheilded cable to achieve the maximum lengths without dropouts. We sell our own cable which is properly tested to 120 metres (not sure of that in feet!) with no problems, however we also recommended KLOTZ RC5SB cable which is good over 120 metres and is readily available.
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I've been trying to find a F/UTP (foil outer shield) Cat 5e cable with solid core but having a hard time locating any in North America, let alone Canada.
BTW, their own cable sells for $1275/100m (328') roll on fullcompass.com. No, thank you.
John Sulek:
--- Quote from: Steven Welwood on September 02, 2014, 02:12:07 PM ---Getting mixed messages from Soundcraft.
My setup is just the FOH board and Stagebox 32. I got a 150' cable that seems to match the specs you show above, but I've been getting clicks similar to word clock issues. I messaged Elliot from SC through Facebook, and this is an excerpt of his response to me:
I've been trying to find a F/UTP (foil outer shield) Cat 5e cable with solid core but having a hard time locating any in North America, let alone Canada.
BTW, their own cable sells for $1275/100m (328') roll on fullcompass.com. No, thank you.
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I don't work for Soundcraft, but this is based on my experiences touring with a Vi6 for a number of years (since ver 1).
The clicks indicate that the console and the stage box are not properly syncing to each other. It is caused by the cable having a capacitance that falls outside the acceptable tolerance for the Madi cards.
If you are in Canada, try SF Marketing in Montreal. We used their (Digiflex tactical cat5 if I recall correctly) sheilded cat5 cable for a 300ft Vi6 snake. I can't recall if it was solid core.
What we found with the Vi6 is that the Madi over cat5 is very picky about the cable. Certain brands work and others cause the clicking you are hearing.
If there is a sound company near you try a length of whatever they are using and see if it works.
Steven Welwood:
--- Quote from: John Sulek on September 03, 2014, 10:34:34 AM ---If you are in Canada, try SF Marketing in Montreal. We used their (Digiflex tactical cat5 if I recall correctly) sheilded cat5 cable for a 300ft Vi6 snake. I can't recall if it was solid core.
What we found with the Vi6 is that the Madi over cat5 is very picky about the cable. Certain brands work and others cause the clicking you are hearing.
If there is a sound company near you try a length of whatever they are using and see if it works.
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Thanks for the info. The Digiflex is shielded, but has a stranded core. Although it is working for you, I think I'll probably get this one (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EtherShld200) from Sweetwater, as suggested to me by Tim McCulloch in a different thread.
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