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Kevin Tracy

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using eaw sm222 as mains
« on: August 09, 2013, 10:32:23 am »

Any reason these wont be comparable to JBl 722s ?
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Art Welter

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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2013, 12:04:29 pm »

Any reason these wont be comparable to JBl 722s ?
They have a higher sensitivity, but the horn pattern is different, SRX 722 is 75 x 50, the SM222 is 100 horizontal x 40.
I have not seen polars for the SM222, but since it is a floor monitor, would assume the horizontal to be the wide dimension (around 36") which may not lend itself to a "speaker on a stick" configuration. Stock, the cabinet has no flyware or pole mount.

They were equipped with TAD 4001 or RCF 2" exit drivers, the 4001 bring big $$ from hi-fi types, and cost a fortune to re-diaphragm.

If you decide to replace the EP6 connectors, I'll buy them.
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Jim McKeveny

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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2013, 12:35:38 pm »

There were a whole bunch of permutations of 222s. The only constant was the DDS CFD2-61 horn bell. Nominal pattern is available on the DDS site. Drivers, impedance, venting, passive shaping, even the physical positioning of the horn, varied over the years.

Would they maybe work in a "good enough" situation? Possibly. But maybe so would Altec A7's..

Not really fodder for a pro 2013 forum.
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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2013, 12:52:44 pm »

I think the fact im asking about a very pro expensive monitor alternate uses makes it inapropriate for the weekend warriors forum?
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Kevin Tracy

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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2013, 01:10:47 pm »

Can the horn be rotated?
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Riley Casey

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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2013, 02:00:12 pm »

When I had SM222 wedges in inventory I would use them as mains or side fills stacked on subs and they worked fairly well.  A bit better in fact than they did as wedges. Getting further from the box makes the weirdness of the 12s being separated by a couple of wavelengths at crossover less ... weird.  The horn is a 60x40 pattern with the wide angle across the narrow dimension of the box so orienting the box vertically works about right if you want a 60 degree coverage angle.  It's not terribly stable when vertical so a ratchet strap is a good idea.  No idea how it would play with the JBL box mentioned though.

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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2013, 02:05:09 pm »

Can the horn be rotated?

I do not believe there is room enough between the 12" drivers for the horn to be rotated--as it is a rectange.

There's a special place in my back from SM222s (and TMS3s for that matter).  They're heavy.  And they're loud.  Maybe many years ago that made for a good FoH PA.

However, I have used 222s as main PA and it was not the worst thing I'd ever heard,  I really wouldn't recommend it though when nearly any modern PA cabinet is light years better.

Good luck!

-Fred
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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2013, 03:43:15 pm »

Quote from: Riley Casey
I didn't want to combine with srx722 but asking how the sm compare as a mains

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When I had SM222 wedges in inventory I would use them as mains or side fills stacked on subs and they worked fairly well.  A bit better in fact than they did as wedges. Getting further from the box makes the weirdness of the 12s being separated by a couple of wavelengths at crossover less ... weird.  The horn is a 60x40 pattern with the wide angle across the narrow dimension of the box so orienting the box vertically works about right if you want a 60 degree coverage angle.  It's not terribly stable when vertical so a ratchet strap is a good idea.  No idea how it would play with the JBL box mentioned though.
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Riley Casey

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Re: using eaw sm222 as mains
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 09:17:38 pm »

Then the take away from my post would be, yes they work if that's what you have on hand but its not something I'd choose these days.


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