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Tim Weaver

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Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« on: July 22, 2013, 05:42:40 pm »

What do you guys think about the X32 as far as club land acceptability goes? Would it be worth it to step up to the Soundcraft Expression? They are not too far apart in price, unless you are going for the digi snake. THen the price difference is much greater.


A few short years ago we saw the GL2400 in this role. Nobody really liked it, but everybody would accept it and do the gig. Is the X32 gonna fill that spot?
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2013, 06:11:18 pm »

What do you guys think about the X32 as far as club land acceptability goes? Would it be worth it to step up to the Soundcraft Expression? They are not too far apart in price, unless you are going for the digi snake. THen the price difference is much greater.


A few short years ago we saw the GL2400 in this role. Nobody really liked it, but everybody would accept it and do the gig. Is the X32 gonna fill that spot?

Hi Tim,

I am surprised that a lounge act would require as many inputs and capabilities as even the X32 has.  Most of the lounge acts I have seen are small blues setups, piano solo, guitar acoustic, etc.

Are you talking about Casino lounges?  I have seen a few of those with full bands playing.

I guess it never occurred to me that lounge acts would have mixer expectations.

I would say that most of the lounge acts I have heard benefit most from good vocal clarity and outstanding reverb efx.
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 06:24:56 pm »

What do you guys think about the X32 as far as club land acceptability goes?

Which lounges and clubs are you talking about?
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2013, 07:29:24 pm »

Hi Tim,

I am surprised that a lounge act would require as many inputs and capabilities as even the X32 has.  Most of the lounge acts I have seen are small blues setups, piano solo, guitar acoustic, etc.

Are you talking about Casino lounges?  I have seen a few of those with full bands playing.

I guess it never occurred to me that lounge acts would have mixer expectations.

I would say that most of the lounge acts I have heard benefit most from good vocal clarity and outstanding reverb efx.

I think by "Lounge", Mr. Weaver might be referring to The LAB Lounge, the name of this forum. As in "Not Varsity Level Touring".

Just a guess.
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 07:38:39 pm »

I think by "Lounge", Mr. Weaver might be referring to The LAB Lounge, the name of this forum. As in "Not Varsity Level Touring".

Just a guess.

Bingo!

I posted a photo of a tour that came through one of our venues that featured at DiGiCo SD10 (IIRC), our AVID Venue/Mixrack, and the middle act (touring support) on an X32.

I think the answer to Weaver's question is "yes, it's already happening."
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 08:24:01 pm »

Bingo!

I posted a photo of a tour that came through one of our venues that featured at DiGiCo SD10 (IIRC), our AVID Venue/Mixrack, and the middle act (touring support) on an X32.

I think the answer to Weaver's question is "yes, it's already happening."

I just did a show where the headliner had an SD8 and a CL3, mixed the opener on the X32, the headliner's tech guys were actually curious about the console.

The overall response to the console from touring groups (we're obviously not talking arena level) seems to be curiousity, some guys are looking at them as a backup board to stash in the trailer for off dates, other guys are looking for replacements for their 01V/MixWiz/etc monitor setups.
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 09:50:55 pm »

The X32 is a capable full featured box introduced at the right time, and for the right price. The problems I have with the box are simply this. Too many features jammed into the box that are not well organized which leads to a long learning curve, unreliable stage box, low quality sound, low quality faders, only one service center in the USA, the name.

Will the X32 be accepted? Well, it looks like it's on the way, but with the advent of additional players entering the low cost digital market it's going to take more than flashing lights to hold onto the ground Uli and group have planted their flag in. The QU-16 and the expression are both offspring from long and well respected lines of digital mixers. Using the same construction, components, and designs, particularly in the case of the expression, spells reliability and confidence in the product. These boards, and others that will eventually come as a result, will eventually take huge bites out of Uli's intended X32 market, if for no other reason then the name on the box.
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 10:09:43 pm »

I think by "Lounge", Mr. Weaver might be referring to The LAB Lounge, the name of this forum. As in "Not Varsity Level Touring".

Just a guess.


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I'm referring to band-in-a-van touring acts that are playing anywhere from 200 person clubs to being 2nd act playing at 3 in the afternoon on a big summer festival. Most of these guys have some kind of engineer.
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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 10:14:14 pm »

I'm referring to band-in-a-van touring acts that are playing anywhere from 200 person clubs to being 2nd act playing at 3 in the afternoon on a big summer festival. Most of these guys have some kind of engineer.

I just polished my crystal ball and it told me that in a very short while, the analog board will be the odd exception on all stages, even the 200 seat club.    In that day any "some kind of engineer" will have to be able to drive whatever is there.



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Re: Is the X32 gonna become "acceptable" at the lounge level?
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 11:08:53 pm »

What do you guys think about the X32 as far as club land acceptability goes? Would it be worth it to step up to the Soundcraft Expression? They are not too far apart in price, unless you are going for the digi snake. THen the price difference is much greater.


A few short years ago we saw the GL2400 in this role. Nobody really liked it, but everybody would accept it and do the gig. Is the X32 gonna fill that spot?
the problem with the X32 in the 200 seat clubs is it's physical size.
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