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Johnny Diaz

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Speaker Cable
« on: May 22, 2013, 09:55:42 pm »

I'm loading my amp to 2 ohms and would like to build my own speaker cables.  Anyone recommend a good 10awg / 8awg 2 conductor cable so I can make speakon cables?
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 10:07:35 pm »

I'm loading my amp to 2 ohms and would like to build my own speaker cables.  Anyone recommend a good 10awg / 8awg 2 conductor cable so I can make speakon cables?

How long is the run 12 should be fine 10/8/6 they are all over kill
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 10:10:08 pm »

How long is the run 12 should be fine 10/8/6 they are all over kill

I want to make 25, 50 & 100 feet.  I read that the longer cables affect the damping factor and one way to resolve it is to use a bigger cable.  Is this true?
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 10:16:18 pm »

I want to make 25, 50 & 100 feet.  I read that the longer cables affect the damping factor and one way to resolve it is to use a bigger cable.  Is this true?

Yes to some extent but there is beneficial and overkill
The company I work for runs turbo 21 subs with 12 gauge cable all the time in fact that what most of nl4 cable is 12/4 ( so they can be use for by amped monitors or mans). But the subs only use pin 1+-
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 10:19:01 pm »

Yes to some extent but there is beneficial and overkill
The company I work for runs turbo 21 subs with 12 gauge cable all the time in fact that what most of nl4 cable is 12/4 ( so they can be use for by amped monitors or mans). But the subs only use pin 1+-

How low are you loading the amp?
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 10:21:03 pm »

How low are you loading the amp?
4 sometimes 2
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 10:32:28 pm »

4 sometimes 2

Well in theory if you load it down to 2 ohms with a 12 awg cable you are definitely losing some power and the damping factor is being affected.  Real life may be another story.
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 10:35:01 pm »

I want to make 25, 50 & 100 feet.  I read that the longer cables affect the damping factor and one way to resolve it is to use a bigger cable.  Is this true?

Yes but......no common speaker connector will take a #8 or #6  wire short of using twist lock power connectors. I guess you splice on a piece of #12 on each end for the connector.

#12 will be fine and at the end of the night you'll like rolling it up better than a bunch of 6 x 2 or 6 x4 cables for speakers, We do enough of that for feeder cable.

I guess if this is for an install you could go crazy and use #8 or #6 you would need to reduce to a smaller gage for terminations.
I have read somewhere some installs that ran several hundred feet used up wards to #6 for speaker runs.

As just mentioned you could use speakons wired with four conductor cable and double up on the connections.
That could get confusing if the cabinets or amp racks got mixed in with a bi-amp wired NL4 system.


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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 10:37:56 pm »

Yes but......no common speaker connector will take a #8 or #6  wire short of using twist lock power connectors. I guess you splice on a piece of #12 on each end for the connector.

#12 will be fine and at the end of the night you'll like rolling it up better than a bunch of 6 x 2 or 6 x4 cables for speakers, We do enough of that for feeder cable.

I guess if this is for an install you could go crazy and use #8 or #6 you would need to reduce to a smaller gage for terminations.
I have read somewhere some installs that ran several hundred feet used up wards to #6 for speaker runs.

As just mentioned you could use speakons wired with four conductor cable and double up on the connections.
That could get confusing if the cabinets or amps racks got mixed in with a bi-amp wired NL4 system.

I agree 8 or 6 awg would be hard to manage but I think 10 awg would be doable.  Know any good brands for a 10awg cable?
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Re: Speaker Cable
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 10:49:23 pm »

Well in theory if you load it down to 2 ohms with a 12 awg cable you are definitely losing some power and the damping factor is being affected.  Real life may be another story.

I would say that the loss on the 25 and 50 would be so minimal that it would never deem it reasonable to spend an extra
Example 12/4 25ft $22.       50ft $44         75ft. $66.       100ft. $88
             10/4 25ft $40         50ft $80.        75ft. $120.     100ft.  $160
              8/4. 25ft $52.        50ft $104.       75ft  $156.     100ft. $209

If you build just one of each length here's the differance in price
12/4   $220
10/4.   $400
8/4.      $521
I got these prices from cammeltraders.

The little bit of rewarded just does not out weigh the cost.
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