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Art Welter

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HyperboLine ™ Projector
« on: May 07, 2013, 09:30:08 PM »

After more than 40 years of building and designing various types of speaker cabinets, I finally have designed and built some prototypes of an entirely new (to my awareness) type of enclosure, the HyperboLine ™.

Using the plane wave output potential a hyperbola provides in one axis, and the attributes of a line array in the other axis, the HyperboLine has long distance HF (high frequency) SPL potential exceeding any conventional point and shoot or line array type system.

A true plane wave theoretically only drops at 3 dB per doubling of distance, compared to 6 dB per doubling of distance from ordinary speakers which emit some portion of a spherically shaped wave.

Line arrays can exhibit a 3 dB per doubling of distance measured in the near field due to destructive interference, good for even SPL coverage, but no better regarding "throw" than a point and shoot system using narrow horns.

HF atmospheric air absorption attenuation is added on top of inverse distance losses.
Using this calculator:
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-air.htm
We see losses at 12.5kHz range from 23.7 dB at a temperature of 68F and 50% relative humidity to 38 dB with at 77F and 20% RH .
Meyer Sound does rigorous testing, one can see that their new Leo line array is not immune to the HF air attenuation problem, as can be seen here:
http://www.meyersound.com/sites/default/files/leo_application_profile_marysville.pdf

The Leo array at 12.5 kHz drops from about 82 dB at 30 meters to 60 dB at 120m, a 22 dB drop.
Obviously 22 dB of additional HF boost is impossible, so we see the HF basically dropping in to the noise floor at 120 meters, although the rest of the audio range has only dropped about 6 dB in the same distance.

Meyer Sound introduced the SB-1 in 1997, using a parabolic dish (a paraboloid) to emit a planar (flat) wavefront. The paraboloid focuses the HF horn's  reflected output parallel to the primary axis. It also uses a 12" speaker and phase processing to control the side lobes in the octave above it's 500 Hz lower limit imposed by the dish size. The SB-1 is big, 54 x 54 x 48 inches (1.38 x 1.38 x 1.23 meters) and heavy 293 lb. (133 Kg.)
Meyers spec sheet © 1997 claims a frequency response of +/- 4 dB 500-Hz -15 kHz at 100m with a maximum SPL of >110 dB at 100 meters, far greater (on paper) than the Leo's HF output potential.

Curt Graber's Hyperspike 60 set the  Guinness World Record for the  loudest electro-acoustic speaker at 140.2 dB at 128 meters in March of 1997.
The record has still not been broken.
Curt's HS-60 make the SB-1  seem like Marshall stack compared to a clock radio.
His commercially available HS-40 (only a bit more than one meter in diameter) can produce a warning tone of 123 dB at 100 meters, 13 dB more output than the SB-1!
The Hyperspike has the advantage over a paraboloid arrangement in that output can be scaled up by putting far more drivers in the annular ring feeding the hyperboloid. More drivers added to a paraboloid ultimately block the projector.

In 1999, after reading about the SB-1, I built a similar unit, the results were impressive, at least a 6 dB improvement in level over a conventional 13 x13 degree conical horn at long distances.
I was unaware of Curt Graber's Hyperspike record until 2009.
In recent conversations with Curt found he has been selling a fair amount of Hyperspike units worldwide, and has developed his own transducers to drive them,  with assembly taking place at the 300,000 square foot Ultra Electronics plant.
Mark Gander of JBL (you old folks may remember his Cabaret Series including a 4 x10" Line Array from back in the 1980's) when touring the plant commented something like "I would rather work with you, apparently you have all the fun".
Curt is not presently selling his transducers which are to my knowledge capable of more clean mid-range output than anything on the planet.

Inspired by the Hyperspike products which use an annular ring of drivers perfect for the intended loud hailing purpose,  I had the idea of using a hyperbolic waveguide using drivers in a line array, a new combination better fitted for concert sound reinforcement.

Being a combination of a line array and hyperbolic focusing waveguide, the  HyperboLine does not quite achieve the 3 dB loss per doubling of distance of a true planar source, but over a 128 meter distance has around 10 dB less level loss compared to a conical 13 x 13 degree Maltese horn.
The Welter Systems Maltese horn was designed in 1992 as the HF portion of a three way co-axial horn within a horn within a horn, it is narrower  ("longer throw") than any other horn in production I'm aware of, and probably has better projection than any single horn driver projector other than the Meyers SB-1. Comparative tests were  between the Maltese Horn and the Hyperboline were done on Red Dog Road by my shop.
Oriented in a line, the HyperboLine can effectively paint adjacent acoustic stripes rather than spots like the SB-1 produces.
If the HyperboLine is oriented horizontally, precise digital beam steering as afforded by products like the AFGM FIRmaker could be employed, the drivers or short groups individually addressed.

Like Meyer's SB-1 testing in 1997, my recent long -distance tests have been hampered by gusty wind conditions.
Even in near worst case test conditions,  blow-your-hat-off winds gusting with peaks over 30 miles per hour, relative humidity around 17 to 20, temperatures of 70- 80F at an altitude of 6200 feet, the HyperboLine shows excellent results at distances of 128 meters (416 feet).
Atmospheric losses from 32 to 128 meters in the hot dry high desert test conditions should amount to around 36.5 dB at 12.5kHz in addition to the inverse distance losses compared to the predicted 22 dB air attenuation in the Meyers Leo tests conducted with 50% humidity.
A pair of HyperboLine QH-24X measure approximately a 20 dB loss at 12.5kHz between 32 to 128 meters.

Comparing the Leo and Maltese Horn results, it appears the HyperboLine shows at least a 10 dB long distance HF "throw" advantage over a line array or narrow HF horn.
The Welter Systems HyperboLine does not require the use of compression drivers, the HLQH-24X ("Quonset Hut" 24 driver experimental) uses 10 watt "full range" drivers of  83 dB sensitivity, only 93 dB  continuous potential per driver.
Using high grade drivers could add some 40-45 dB potential to a unit the same size.
The charts below have been raised by 40-45 dB to "fit on the page", with decent drivers the level indicated could be achieved, with peaks +30 to 36 dB higher than the pink noise levels.

To save storage space the HLQH-24X was made with a driver section and a four part flare extender, the driver section is 33 tall x 8.25 deep x 26.25 inches wide, 29 lb., the extenders folded down are 41.5 x 16 x 3 inches, 26 lb. including attachment hardware.
Assembled the cabinet is 33" tall, 22" deep, and 41.5" wide, 55 lb.

I would like to get the chance to test the Hyperboline out in a large indoor facility to avoid wind issues, but the largest near hear is only about half the length of the tests performed.
The local Madrid Oscar Huber Memorial Ballpark looked like it was 128 meters on Google maps, after setting up and measuring found that at a diagonal the longest distance was 118 meters before a steep down hill slope, with wind barreling through the arroyo.

Science is fun, and good exercise, walked at least 5 miles during the various tests in the last few weeks, the walk is not over.

Art
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Re: HyperboLine ™ Projector
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2013, 09:53:50 PM »

Here are the test results for the Maltese horn and a pair of Hyperboline tested from one meter to 128 meters.

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Re: HyperboLine ™ Projector
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2013, 01:25:41 PM »

Very interesting read..
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Re: HyperboLine ™ Projector
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2013, 02:02:48 PM »

Very interesting read..
Jason,

Glad you found it interesting, most people's eyes will probably have glazed over by the second paragraph..

Now that I've built the Hyperboline cabinets, just need to find some shows that need them.

At least they don't use much room in the mean time.

Art
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Re: HyperboLine ™ Projector
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2013, 02:07:41 PM »

Jason,

Glad you found it interesting, most people's eyes will probably have glazed over by the second paragraph..

Now that I've built the Hyperboline cabinets, just need to find some shows that need them.

At least they don't use much room in the mean time.

Art

haha yeah people rather talk about the same subjects over and over again. Any unique processing or power requirements? what patterns can one look forward to trying to deploy these cabinets? And lastly how does one get to test one out for research purposes?!  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2013, 04:25:24 PM »

haha yeah people rather talk about the same subjects over and over again. Any unique processing or power requirements? what patterns can one look forward to trying to deploy these cabinets? And lastly how does one get to test one out for research purposes?!  ;D
Jason,

The experimental  Hyperboline used "normal" processing and power, a DBX DRPA, a Crest CC2800 on the Red Dog Road tests and a SpeakerPower SP4000 for tests at the Madrid Ballpark.
The HLQH-24X pattern is around 10 degrees (-6 dB 5 degrees off) down to 800 Hz.
Testing the polar patterns is a challenge, near field testing is not representative of the far field response, and HF far field response is hard to get with the wind blowing like stink.

The cabinets work OK without the extenders, and an initial quick test at distance seemed to make little difference when a mock up hyperbola extender was added.
The quick test was wrong, about 40% of the speaker's energy was spilling out the sides.
In a walk around listen, this was not so objectionable, as the side energy drops off at 6 dB per doubling of distance, the forward energy drops off a bit more than 3 dB per doubling of distance, the net result that the side lobes seem low compared to the on axis response, especially with side by side placement.
The extenders actually increased LF by 3 dB and long distance HF by around 6 dB, a big deal at 128 meters, but hardly detectable at 16 meters.

The extenders cleaned up the off axis response.
Still, the HLQH-24X polar response is uneven for several reasons.
The hyperbola should have been deeper to avoid side spill, reduce cabinet depth and width, and reduce acoustic center to center horizontal driver distance.
Having problems bending the tempered hard board the prototype hyperbola were made of, I compromised with a more shallow easy to bend hyperbola, which compromised the off-axis response.  The extenders are still a bit short, but because of the hyperbola chosen, it would take a huge increase in depth to make only a small improvement in response.
There is definitely room for  design improvement, but the response is "good enough" where I'm not wanting to scrap these and start over.
If I were doing more shows requiring long throw (or someone is interested in "sponsoring" the design), I'd be doing a redesign using better drivers.

From a quick listening test, a 20 degree splay between cabinets resulted in a definite "hole in the middle", while a 15 degree splay seemed fairly even by ear.
Without a crane and a mechanical robot arm (I have neither), vertical testing of the HLQH-24X would be inconclusive, but by ear the HF seems "gone"  a few degrees off.
The vertical response could be predicted fairly accurately using a model with HF elements 2.6 inch center to center.

For my use, the HLQH-24X will probably be used mostly for side coverage.
The line array I use has an even 90 degree coverage, so from center out to 45 degrees is fine, just requiring some near field center fills if the L/R positioning is wide.
However, out to the sides past 45 degrees, coverage is 6 dB down, and the coverage distance is longer, one or two Hyperbolines per side should work well for those areas.

As far as testing them out for "research purposes" contact me personally and we can discuss arrangements  ;).
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Re: HyperboLine ™ Projector
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2020, 01:32:03 PM »

will be the 50 year anniversary of the 1970 Isle of Wight festival where Charlie Watkins first used his parabolic speaker reflector.
5 mile projection using a 10 watt 10" speaker "in reasonable conditions" !

Parabolic and hyperbolic designs could still allow for plenty of  “social distancing”, just bring your telescope to the show :^).

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2020, 02:13:13 PM »

Art, whatever became of you HP series?  I remember originally reading the 2013 posts and thinking "yeah this is cool stuff" and then it seemed you'd moved on to the Keystone and some other projects.
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Re: HyperboLine ™ Projector
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2020, 03:12:33 PM »

Art, whatever became of you HP series?  I remember originally reading the 2013 posts and thinking "yeah this is cool stuff" and then it seemed you'd moved on to the Keystone and some other projects.
With virtually no interest generated, and no gigs of my own requiring ultra long throw, the experimental HyperboLine cabinets were recycled prior to my move to Florida in 2016, along with a few tons of other stuff :^).

There was some recent interest expressed in parabolic projectors on DIY audio, and it made me realize again how overlooked the concept is in pro audio.
21 years ago when I built my first units, and even in 2013 was not aware of Charlie Watkin's projectors, thought it was time to shine the 50 year old "audio spotlight" again while the pro industry is in review mode.

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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2020, 12:43:58 PM »

With virtually no interest generated, and no gigs of my own requiring ultra long throw, the experimental HyperboLine cabinets were recycled prior to my move to Florida in 2016, along with a few tons of other stuff :^).

There was some recent interest expressed in parabolic projectors on DIY audio, and it made me realize again how overlooked the concept is in pro audio.
21 years ago when I built my first units, and even in 2013 was not aware of Charlie Watkin's projectors, thought it was time to shine the 50 year old "audio spotlight" again while the pro industry is in review mode.

Art

I was at the festivals that you have posted pictures of, the colour ones are from one in Grangemouth Scotland. Slade played there it was effectively their PA with some bits added, I didn't know much about the techie bits of sound in those days (14 years old) but I do remember that it was loud at Grangemouth. Wind defeated the last of the Isle of Wight festivals amongst other technical issues and IMO the WEM kit was not really suited to outdoor use the big modified ALTECs etc of Bill Handley and others in the US worked way better outdoors. I do think Charlie was a little better at the input side of things the little Audiomaster was pretty good for a 1960's design and was basically quite reliable and if you were careful with grounding worked well, the amplifiers well they worked but didn't put out much power which meant much chaining and even more earth loop issues but it was possible to get them to behave and for early transistor amps they worked well enough.
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