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Bob Leonard

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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2013, 11:15:11 PM »

Chase,
Are there any statements in the product manuals pertaining to cable type? My take after reading this and many other threads concerning cable for your products is that nowhere in the manual(s) is a cable type specifically stated.
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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2013, 04:12:25 PM »

> The X32 has successfully passed all the international certifications, which includes radiated and received electro-magnetic interference.

Hi Joe. Specifically, was full ESD testing done in order to ensure that high joule static electricity doesn't cause issues? Something along the lines of a Schaffner NSG 435 ESD simulator goes a long way to finding ESD related issues.

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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2013, 04:50:34 PM »

I would listen to the later company guy who said use a shielded cat 5 cable, not the earlier company guy who said the shielding may not matter.

case closed, maybe...

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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2013, 10:18:00 PM »

I would listen to the later company guy who said use a shielded cat 5 cable, not the earlier company guy who said the shielding may not matter.

case closed, maybe...

JR

I agree, which is why I had originally mentioned shielding and grounded cable ends. Now all we need is for Behringer to commit one way or the other, or specify the location of this information in their manuals.
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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2013, 10:27:20 PM »


I agree, which is why I had originally mentioned shielding and grounded cable ends. Now all we need is for Behringer to commit one way or the other, or specify the location of this information in their manuals.

umm bob it was pointed out in Jan's email that they don't endorse using unshielded cat5e...that to me would mean that behringer suggests sheilded cable. but i highly doubt its in the manual...lol if it is...someone point it out! haha
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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #65 on: May 03, 2013, 07:16:39 PM »

umm bob it was pointed out in Jan's email that they don't endorse using unshielded cat5e...that to me would mean that behringer suggests sheilded cable. but i highly doubt its in the manual...lol if it is...someone point it out! haha

I agree Josh, but prior to his "endorsement" someone else from Behringer had no commitment one way or the other. Not having the statement in the manual is similar to no statement at all. Personally, and without anyone's "endorsement", I would have used fully shielded cable with shielded and ground capable connectors on both ends. But that's me.
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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2013, 07:21:19 PM »

Is there really any debate...?

If they mess up with shielded cable we might have something to talk about.

Since this was suggested to the OP one wonders how this thread made it to 7 pages.

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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #67 on: May 03, 2013, 08:08:06 PM »


I agree Josh, but prior to his "endorsement" someone else from Behringer had no commitment one way or the other. Not having the statement in the manual is similar to no statement at all. Personally, and without anyone's "endorsement", I would have used fully shielded cable with shielded and ground capable connectors on both ends. But that's me.

agreed...always should use shielded cable (unless specified for some reason).
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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2013, 01:12:32 AM »



I wanted to share this information directly from Jan Duwe:

Jan DUWE
Assistant Manager, Conceptual Engineering
MUSIC Group Services EU GmbH

I'd like to take the opportunity to advise on some statements/postings which were made in the course of this discussion. First of all, Behringer did not and does not endorse the use of UTP (unshielded) CAT5 cable for two reasons.

Best Regards,
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Product Support
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

Well, actually, they did endorse it to me!
I had the problem using shielded cable.
Behringer swapped the desk and racks and suggested the shielded cable was the problem due to increased capacitance from the shield.
New desk and racks are ok so far while using the same original cables. Time will tell.
The same cables are also fine when used on 2 other systems A&H and Midas(also aes50).

Darren
« Last Edit: May 04, 2013, 01:26:03 AM by Darren Scaresbrook »
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Re: behringer x32 cracking and popping with 2x S16 connected?
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2013, 10:04:13 AM »

Not so old Chinese proverb..."Company with many mouths doesn't speak with one voice".

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