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Nate Armstrong

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Direct box with XLR input
« on: February 13, 2013, 10:52:43 am »

I am looking for suggestions on  Direct boxs to pad down pioneer Dj mixers.  The newest pioneer djm mixers do not have a 1/4 inch master out. They only have a XLR output and RCA output. So I either need a DI with a XLR input or a RCA input.  The mix wiz pad does not pad it enough when the dj mixer is maxed out.

I found models
BSS Audio AR-133 Active DI Box @ 179 each ($360)

EWI DBRC-2A 2 channel passive direct box @ $49.50 

The EWI could also be used for people that give me a 1/8 source or RCA source


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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 11:06:29 am »

I am looking for suggestions on  Direct boxs to pad down pioneer Dj mixers.  The newest pioneer djm mixers do not have a 1/4 inch master out. They only have a XLR output and RCA output.
If all you ae looking for is to reduce the level, then something like the http://www.shure.com/americas/products/accessories/microphones/microphone-problem-solvers/a15as-inline-switchable-attenuator may be all you need.

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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 12:13:24 pm »

Whirlwind pcDI, RCA and 1/4" stereo inputs. Also has a summing mode to make stereo inputs mono:

http://whirlwindusa.com/catalog/black-boxes-effects-and-dis/direct-boxes/pcdi

The older version which might still be available had RCA in + loop through as well as 1/8" TRS. No mono summing featuring. I own both and have never used the RCA loop through or the 1/8" input, so my vote is for the newer version.
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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 12:16:54 pm »

Whirlwind pcDI, RCA and 1/4" stereo inputs. Also has a summing mode to make stereo inputs mono:

http://whirlwindusa.com/catalog/black-boxes-effects-and-dis/direct-boxes/pcdi

The older version which might still be available had RCA in + loop through as well as 1/8" TRS. No mono summing featuring. I own both and have never used the RCA loop through or the 1/8" input, so my vote is for the newer version.

Correction on that, the new one also has the 1/8" input. Still never used it ;)
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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 12:18:49 pm »

Use a pair of XLR-TRS adapters and go into line inputs rather than mic inputs.

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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 12:57:18 pm »

I would agree with you except it's a lot tougher to mitigate ground loop problems with a direct line connection down the snake. In my experience, it's better to have the ability to isolate the ground with a transformer based DI, generally speaking.
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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 01:07:45 pm »

And what about the live wire or HOSA  RCA male to 1/4 TS male cable. 
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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 01:18:32 pm »

I would agree with you except it's a lot tougher to mitigate ground loop problems with a direct line connection down the snake. In my experience, it's better to have the ability to isolate the ground with a transformer based DI, generally speaking.

I guess so, but I would try the simple and cheap solution first and if it works then you're done. For an install DIs and lifting signal ground would be my third option after trying the adapter and trying to make the power right.

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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 01:19:45 pm »

And what about the live wire or HOSA  RCA male to 1/4 TS male cable.

Not down a snake.

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Re: Direct box with XLR input
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 01:35:33 pm »

The Shure attenuators that Andre linked to are about US$50.  If you know how much attenuation you need, you can find fixed pads for around US$25.

DIs that can take the CDJ levels are a different animal from the usual passive DI.

I suggest the Radial JDI Duplex.  It builds in a -20dB pad at the XLR inputs.  Streets for US$350.  I looked at a couple other Radial products that offer XLR in/out, none have input attenuation at the XLR in.



I am looking for suggestions on  Direct boxs to pad down pioneer Dj mixers.  The newest pioneer djm mixers do not have a 1/4 inch master out. They only have a XLR output and RCA output. So I either need a DI with a XLR input or a RCA input.  The mix wiz pad does not pad it enough when the dj mixer is maxed out.

I found models
BSS Audio AR-133 Active DI Box @ 179 each ($360)

EWI DBRC-2A 2 channel passive direct box @ $49.50 

The EWI could also be used for people that give me a 1/8 source or RCA source


rig
Mixwiz 16
Drive rack pa ( over easy limiter)
DBX for brick wall limiter
QSC KW 153 / Kw18 
KW12 monitors
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Re: Direct box with XLR input
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