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Cadac/Studiomaster
« on: March 17, 2011, 11:26:51 AM »

So browsing a trade mag yesterday, I couldn't help but notice the remarkable visual similarity between the upcoming Cadac DM1600 and the also upcoming Studiomaster Digilive 16. It'll be interesting to see how different they are operationally.


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Re: Cadac/Studiomaster
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 11:29:55 AM »

So browsing a trade mag yesterday, I couldn't help but notice the remarkable visual similarity between the upcoming Cadac DM1600 and the also upcoming Studiomaster Digilive 16. It'll be interesting to see how different they are operationally.


Interesting.  I'd thought the Studiomaster name had been buried and left to deserved obscurity.

I guess Clive and the boys couldn't be picky about who their White Knight was.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 01:45:00 PM »

Not only do they look exactly alike, but the product descriptions are exactly the same as well:
Studiomaster DigiLive 16
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Studiomaster is to release its first digital live sound mixer, the DigiLive 16, at the forthcoming Pro Light & Sound show in Frankfurt.

Developed using a new proprietary DSP mix platform, the DigiLive 16 incorporates extensive production features and system expansion options these include rackmount expander modules to expand the mixer up to 48 channels, and an optional Firewire interface provides the Studiomaster DigiLive 16 with extensive sound recording and production capabilities. Internally,  the signal uses 24-bit Delta-Sigma AD/DA converters, and twin fourth -generation 32/40-bit floating-point SHARC processors. The desk also features EQ and analogue sounding compressors, as well as low-noise mic preamps with high CMRR and signal-to-noise specifications.

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Cadac has announced the launch of a new compact digital console at this years prolight+sound.

Specially developed ultra-low distortion EQ filters and analogue sounding compressors, 24-bit / 96kHz Delta-Sigma AD/DA converters, and four 4th generation 32/40-bit floating-point SHARC processors ensure that sound quality is of the highest order.

Advanced EQ algorithms, using proportional-Q techniques, produce smooth, musical adjustments that rival the best analogue designs. Wide dynamic range, low noise mic pre-amps feature premium input ICs with outstanding CMRR and capable of the theoretical maximum Equivalent Input Noise.

And both to debut at Pro Light & Sound in Frankfurt. Seems that Soundking is involved in both companies. I wonder which console will be cheaper.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 01:48:55 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 12:57:47 PM »

Steve,

Also consider this announcement, made in the last few days, along with this other announcement. It looks like they are going for at least 3 market segments. Check the applications note. This could be a company to watch.

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 12:48:02 AM »

And still the question remains, why is Cadac introducing (what appears to be) the exact same console as another company owned by the same parent company which has the same design, features and specs. And which one will be less expensive? (And for what reasons?)
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Re: Cadac/Studiomaster
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 08:45:25 AM »

Reminds me of the old Behringer/Mackie mixers that looked exaclty alike.

Mackie would put it out and then there would be Behringer that looked exactly like it right behind.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 10:14:52 AM »

And still the question remains, why is Cadac introducing (what appears to be) the exact same console as another company owned by the same parent company which has the same design, features and specs. And which one will be less expensive? (And for what reasons?)

I think the real question is not which one will be less expensive, that seems self evident, but more importantly, who designed the console?

Cadac is never going to be a low priced console, but is this 16 fader digital console a Cadac level design, or a Studiomaster level design?

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »

...who designed the console?

Cadac is never going to be a low priced console, but is this 16 fader digital console a Cadac level design, or a Studiomaster level design?

Mac

It seems to be a SHARC level design. Analog Devices DSP seems to turn up in some pretty cool products (SunRize Studio 16, CreamWare Scope/Pulsar, Fairlight, etc.)

I think the new Cadac has a better color scheme than does its StudioMaster lookalike. Sort of reminds me of the APB look.

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 06:46:50 PM »

I think the new Cadac has a better color scheme than does its StudioMaster lookalike. Sort of reminds me of the APB look.

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john
Yeah-that is the new way to choose a console-by color!

Of course studies show that women choose a car more on color than any other reason.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 10:56:19 PM »

Yeah-that is the new way to choose a console-by color!

Of course studies show that women choose a car more on color than any other reason.

All these years wasted counting the number of blinky lights to make a decision. Color!
So much easier!
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2011, 01:04:03 PM »

Yeah-that is the new way to choose a console-by color!

Of course studies show that women choose a car more on color than any other reason.
Go sisters go!

If the two mixers are essentially identical, then that means you can choose based on the name or based on the color. At least the color choice has a practical justification.

Why?

While some people like white text on a black background, most people find that a lighter background with darker text is easier to read. It's not really a stretch to apply that to a mixer. Just as it's not a stretch to apply practical implications to a car's color scheme (black paint vs light paint in the summertime when you're parked where there's no shade, for instance).

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