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[Peter Morris]

Just to clarify, VCAs are not POP groups. VCAs include solo and mute functions as well as the fader, whereas a POP group is simply a way to bring a group of inputs or outputs to a section of the console at one time.

Yes … but the VCA groups have a population function. Only the channels selected for that VCA are displayed or populated on the channels strips. I love this function

[Keith Broughton]

Hold the VCA you want to populate for a "few" seconds (do not remember how long) and then press the desired channel select to add it to the VCA. Do all of this while holding the VCA select you are populating

I understand what the VCA is and how to assign them.
The question is, once I have a VCA (eg:drums) has anyone been able to include that VCA when selecting the buttons in a "population group" or is it only inputs and outputs that can be assigned to a population group?
I'm in the shop today and will open the console for more investigation. Many things to learn!

[Ryan Jodrell]

I understand what the VCA is and how to assign them.

You seem to be trying to do the same thing twice. When you have a VCA group set-up, when you press the button it "unfolds" your inputs to that VCA to the input faders. When you have a POP group set-up, when you press the button it unfolds your inputs to that POP group to the input faders. Why include a VCA in a POP group when they do the same thing, apart from VCAs having fader, solo and mute funtionality?

[jason misterka]

You seem to be trying to do the same thing twice. When you have a VCA group set-up, when you press the button it "unfolds" your inputs to that VCA to the input faders. When you have a POP group set-up, when you press the button it unfolds your inputs to that POP group to the input faders. Why include a VCA in a POP group when they do the same thing, apart from VCAs having fader, solo and mute funtionality?

I don't know about the OP, but I can think of several reasons you would want a VCA in a POP spill. 

You are not "spilling" the VCA in that case, only looking at and being able to adjust it.

Especially handy for Pro 1, Pro 2, and Pro 2c consoles that do not have a ton of faders on the surface.

 Say, on the Pro 1, I could have a POP group called DRM/PERC that includes 10 drum channels, 3 perc channels, 1 verb return, a drum VCA and a perc VCA.  I wouldn't hang out there when mixing but could splash there when needed and have access to all the important controls for those inputs.  Kinda like other brand console's custom fader layers...

Jason

[Ryan Jodrell]

Say, on the Pro 1, I could have a POP group called DRM/PERC that includes 10 drum channels, 3 perc channels, 1 verb return, a drum VCA and a perc VCA.
Jason

Where would you "hang out" whilst mixing then? All of the functionality you're wanting is available on one layer as long as you're showing VCAs in the output bank. Spill your POP group with all the inputs and verbs and have your Drum and Perc VCAs right there too- at most they are 15 faders away on the same layer.

[Peter Morris]

Where would you "hang out" whilst mixing then? All of the functionality you're wanting is available on one layer as long as you're showing VCAs in the output bank. Spill your POP group with all the inputs and verbs and have your Drum and Perc VCAs right there too- at most they are 15 faders away on the same layer.

I'm with you ...  the functionality is there as you described.

[jason misterka]

 All of the functionality you're wanting is available on one layer as long as you're showing VCAs in the output bank. Spill your POP group with all the inputs and verbs and have your Drum and Perc VCAs right there too- at most they are 15 faders away on the same layer.

Not on the Pro1 (which is what I've spent all my time on) or Pro2c.  There are only 16 faders total.

In my template I have a SHOW pop group with the 8 most important channels.  I hang out there, with the other 8 faders on DCAs.

I'm not really concerned about this, just was pointing out that the person who requested it may not be looney.  There are times it could be handy.

[Ryan Jodrell]

Not on the Pro1 (which is what I've spent all my time on)

Haha, me too! I'm in front of one all day today as we discuss this

On a completely separate note, has anybody had any luck with Mixtender wireless control with an iPad? I'm far from an IT guy, but try as I might I cannot get the iPad and Pro 1 talking. Any tips would be most helpful

[Jason Kelly]

Haha, me too! I'm in front of one all day today as we discuss this

On a completely separate note, has anybody had any luck with Mixtender wireless control with an iPad? I'm far from an IT guy, but try as I might I cannot get the iPad and Pro 1 talking. Any tips would be most helpful

Hi Ryan,

Please use this link to download a PDF with some instructions for connecting a PRO Series console to an iPad. If you are using an Apple Airport there are some specific settings at the bottom to look at. We've found Airports are the least friendly and easy to set up. But hopefully this will help.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/81872918/Mixtender%20Instructions%20V1.2%20%28Airport%29.pdf

Thanks,

[Peter Morris]

Not on the Pro1 (which is what I've spent all my time on) or Pro2c.  There are only 16 faders total.

In my template I have a SHOW pop group with the 8 most important channels.  I hang out there, with the other 8 faders on DCAs.

I'm not really concerned about this, just was pointing out that the person who requested it may not be looney.  There are times it could be handy.

So why do you want to add a VCA to a POP group … if you could you would just loose one of you 8  displayed channels (on the left) and end up with the same VCA on the left and right groups of 8 faders.

BTW do you use area B ? …  That may help by giving you 3 more faders (I assume a Pro 1 has an area B) ... and you can scroll and there is an extend button.

Peter


edit - quoted wrong reply - now correct

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