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What Digital Matrix Intercom system do you like the most? Please explain.

Adam or Zeus from RTS Telex
Artist from Riedel Communications
Eclipse or Eclipse-PiCo from Clear-Com
Orator from Trilogy Broadcast
SAS intercom stations from Sierria Automated Systems
VCOM from Intracom systems
I havent had experience with any Matrix system

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Neil White

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Re: Panel packaging
« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2012, 11:27:46 am »

Package your panels in a stack-able rack with a back panel.  Build all the adapters into this panel, including any matrix and expansion connections you need to make to the panel. 

Do you have any images of this type of panel packaging?
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Re: The Comms Business
« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2012, 11:35:48 am »

Is it common to have a change management system in place for large systems, as a way to document and track the change requests that inevitably take place during the installation and pre-production stages of an event? It would seem to be a good way to ensure that no requests for changes get missed, and to ensure that anything that falls outside of the scope of the contact is accounted for (whether billed to the client or not). It would also be useful to look back over all the changes that took place during a specific production, and perhaps build some of the requirements into future system designs?

Just have your operators keep a log of all changes when rehearsals and the show are in progress.  I use a simple spreadsheet setup with a macro to paste the current date and time along with, a column for the operator's name and one describing the change.  Keep it simple so it's easy to update.

I post this spreadsheet in Dropbox and edit it directly from that folder so it is always current and all operators can continue with the most current log.  This same spreadsheet has the inventory of every station and is used as the db for my labeling program printer.

This list makes it easy to see the equipment usage.  Your event manager can access the list in the Dropbox and track the contract fulfillment limits.
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Re: Comms documentation
« Reply #102 on: August 30, 2012, 12:14:17 pm »

Just have your operators keep a log of all changes when rehearsals and the show are in progress.  I use a simple spreadsheet setup with a macro to paste the current date and time along with, a column for the operator's name and one describing the change.  Keep it simple so it's easy to update.

Do you track programming changes for individual panels, programming changes that only affect the whole system, or just changes to hardware and cabling infrastructure?

What other documentation is typically produced for the implementation of a system? There is obviously an overall system layout CAD that is visible on the wall behind your control position.
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Re: Comms documentation
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2012, 12:35:28 pm »

Do you track programming changes for individual panels, programming changes that only affect the whole system, or just changes to hardware and cabling infrastructure?
Usually only major changes - addition or removal of equipment - not simple edits on a panel.  Certainly any reports of equipment breakdowns and what was done to fix it.  Include specifics.
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What other documentation is typically produced for the implementation of a system? There is obviously an overall system layout CAD that is visible on the wall behind your control position.

The client should produce a drawing showing operation positions and a list of comms channels and radio channels.  The Ceremonies staff produced that drawing on the wall.  Functionality is what they should explain, not specific equipment or methods.  That is your job to figure out.  You should create the as-built documentation drawings.
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Re: Panel packaging
« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2012, 12:45:59 pm »

Do you have any images of this type of panel packaging?

No.  This has been done by several rental companies.  Be imaginative and design you own look.
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Re: Panel packaging
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2012, 02:19:01 pm »

Package your panels in a stack-able rack with a back panel.  Build all the adapters into this panel, including any matrix and expansion connections you need to make to the panel.


The extra back panel for connections is a great idea and could add to the ruggedness and ease of installation for the panels, as well as protecting the original connectors.
Improvements over the standard panel I/O could be:

Locking power connector, perhaps with loop through (Powercon?)
Locking Ethercon rather than RJ45 for matrix and expansion
XLRs for balanced audio I/O

It should be easy to build in a PSU for a littlite or two to be powered from the rack

Having a UPS with each panel could simplify mains distribution and reduce the single point of failure of one larger UPS covering many panels although it may be easier to monitor the status of the UPS with one larger device. It would be lots of logic programming to trigger alerts for each panel in a large system.

I guess a 3U slanted desktop rack would allow for a 2u panel plus 1u expansion panel if needed, or 2u panel plus timecode display as required.
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Comm problems
« Reply #106 on: September 03, 2012, 12:23:58 pm »

There are a lot of readers to this thread.  Thanks.
To keep it going, I need someone to post a comm system problem...

Maybe a show situation which you have had where the comms never
quite worked or you were still wanting for it to work better?

Let's see if Riedel can work to solve the problem.

The Paralympics are coming to an end and although the system is the same as the Olympic system, the shows are somewhat simpler.
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London 2012 - Venue Comms
« Reply #107 on: September 04, 2012, 12:43:10 pm »

Clearcom have links to some articles about the comms systems in use at the Olympic venues for the sports events.

http://www.comm-n-sense.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/clear-com-supplies-venue-intercoms.html

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